Trump’s government siding with OpenAI is peak MAGA economics: copyright is sacred until Silicon Valley needs millions of other people’s books, articles and art for free. Then suddenly property rights become an annoying obstacle to »winning the AI race.« Apparently America First now means AI companies first, creators somewhere near last.
‘Maga economics’ is just ordinary US Capitalist/Oligarch economics with panicking Oligarchs ! Did you really think that ‘your’ side of the super right-wing US uni-party would not shit on ANY principles as they see fit ?? Come on man It’s a big club… and you ain’t in it !
Both sides are managed. It’s called ‘controlled opposition’. None of your ‘lefty’ values are officially cared about or listened too and you never had ‘Democracy’ in the US, so the Epsteins were always in control !! All of your opinions are nothing but thin air to your Oligarchy, but… somehow ‘Maga’ are bad, and you are good - without ANY of you having ANY democratic power at all !! Without ANY of you having good information, without ANY of you doing dilligent critical evaluations of your system. How incredibly captured are you people ? Do anyone of you even understand how US is run, or what actually happens in the world ?!?
ANY agreement with ANY of your oligarch politicians/Epstein shtters are direct support for their insane behavior at home, and in their insane endless wars against the rest of the world, and guess what - both sides of the uniparty have had the same foreign policy - for 75 years !!! What you see now is nothing but Oligarch panic, and have nothing to do with any opinions of the Merican people - you are NOT in control, and you are NOT in the club !!
Listen to George Carlin for f’s sake ! You are ALL - Maga’s and Dems alike - ‘controlled opposition’, 2 groups of manipulated, mentally raped, mind-colonised right-wingers that seem to believe whatever you are told by the most insane pschopathic elite, by the most insane media outlets that the Oligarchs actually OWN, and hence you live your entire life in the most ridiculous mis-information-sphere in the known world…
You are ALL being played by the Epsteins pschos from the day you were born until now ! Wake up, Stop fighting each other on their command, Stop listening to their media, Stop hating who you are told to hate, Stop agreeing with their violent aggressions around the world - just S T O P ! !
You’re not wrong but you’re wasting your breath. Every generation has a small group that figures this out and no matter how much they change their own lives, no matter how they try to get the word out, or get involved in activism, or literally anything at all, the masses will not budge. The people are incapable of saving themselves or making substantial changes in their lives without external pressures on them. People you know and like and share your opinion will nod and agree and pontificate from the comfort of their armchairs, but as long as they have even a sliver of comfort and convenience and entertainment they will not change anything about their lives at all. But they sure will get online and bitch all day. The best you can do is either move out of the country or gather like minded friends and family and live on a commune.
Alrighty then, enjoy the end of creative people creating things, let’s all find out together how this ends 😐
But you don’t get to enjoy copyrighted materiel yourself
“Rent it again if you love it so much.”
which technically makes piracy legal because that’s the gov endorsing piracy
should update torrent client to say “LLM training agent” instead, legally safe /s
yup
Legal for them, not for us
Nah we might need to accept reality. You need to be rich enough to make some bullshit company that uses A.I. then you can pirate legally using that A.I. as an excuse.
so Norm was right. …
You need a $$$/hr lawyer to pull <$100 LLC paperwork out of their briefcase. “My client was just training his company’s innovative new LLM.” We live in an odd world.
Peasants like us can contribute to global leadership by being wage slaves and cannon fodder
amen, brother!
To my understanding, and excuse me if I‘m wrong because I‘m not a lawyer but that‘s not what the fucking law says? You either uphold copyright law or abandon it. There is no middle way and if courts disagree with you, your stance doesn‘t really matter here.
We are all training our own AI models now.
They got you hoodwinked there.
They don’t like to talk about it, but the US founding fathers were raging leftists (although that terminology didn’t exist yet). The framers of the constitution had no intention to create a class of intellectual landlords extracting rent from the people. That is why copyright is strictly limited in the constitution.
[the United States Congress shall have power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Clause
The language is archaic. Useful Arts means inventions and Science means knowledge. The economic consequences of copyright are very much at issue.
That AI training is (generally) Fair Use is a no-brainer. It’s actually much harder to justify copyrights for entertainment products.
Peak capitalism, steal everything from the masses, remix and regurgitate it so no one is the wiser, then sell it back to them via a subscription model.
Makes me sick.
gonna start my own darknet with a 56k bandwidth limit.
shit was simpler 30 years ago because nothing advanced enough could use such a slow connection.
Let’s get the good stuff down from the loft… the loft ladder creaks
There’s not just a desperation for Skynet by US government, like protecting oil from EVs/renewables, this is also about creating new oligarchs to fund electoral results that oppress Americans/humanity.
THIS JUST IN!:
Anna’s Archive to be renamed AI Training Repository of America.The lawsuits will drop, right?
And now complain again that the Chinese are stealing from you.
I think they have every right to game the bubble because we would be doing the exact same if the situation were reversed. Bummer it’s all going to pop and we will all be using locals soon. They WILL keep building data centers though as long as they get away with it because these boomers and rich idiots want every ounce of our personal info.
I‘m usually one of the first to point out Chinese success is largely based on theft and their business model isn‘t compatible with western capitalism or democracy as a whole.
But yeah the USA lost me a long time ago here. Just insane hypocrisy that even makes Chinese wolf warrior ‚diplomacy‘ look modest.
Project Hail Mary but not for the good of all …
This just in… I think I’m going to start training my own LLM on various movies, TV shows, and music. US government said it was ok.
lol
We’re in danger
Chinese models like Kimi are already competing head-to-head with Claude Opus in term of capability. And the main reason that kimi isn’t as widely used as Claude is because Chinese companies aren’t burning investors money to keep subscription prices low. I wonder how long will this dominance can last. Since investor money will eventually run out. and once that happens, what plans do they have to keep competing with free open weight models that already closed the gap.
The problem with capitalism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.
The main challenge I see is that Aaron Schwartz and countless others have been prosecuted for access to information but AI companies have been rewarded. There is precedence that access like this is not legal. Had they gone through a library system or used a mechanic like that it may have worked but from what I understand, they used torrents and other mechanics to access the data. So you have companies that go after individual infringement but pursue their own mass infringement. Whether AI generated materials is infringement is above my pay grade but their consumption of the materials seems pretty straight forward as infringement.
