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I absolutely loathe WSL at work. Users with local non-AD connected systems (which bypass GPOs) install it, then start making highly insecure configurations that result in PII nightmares.
It’s a goddamned cancer riddled bastard child of Linux and Windows that needs the Ol’ Yeller treatment.
My work would be impossible without WSL, and yes I am guilty of hiding from the security systems… Because the security systems are so invasive they keep locking files I’m trying to open so IDEs don’t even work properly under Windows.
Users with local non-AD connected systems (which bypass GPOs)
Found your problem. Nothing to do with Linux/WSL.
Windows
thatneeds the Ol’ Yeller treatment.FTFY
I don’t know what a native Linux PC is. Does that mean is runs the OS without a noticeable accent?
Real answer: this is talking about computers with windows 11 installed that also run Ubuntu through a service called WSL, or Windows Subsystem for Linux; basically you have a windows 11 pc that can do linux stuff too.
A native Ubuntu machine would be installed directly to the hard drive and booted that way.
Makes sense, thanks. Also seemingly an odd brag. Seems like putting out an article that you’re commonly the side piece.
Yeah. I highly suspect its mostly people who need Ubuntu for job purposes and have security policies or just the C-suite refusing to follow the times
I wouldn’t call WSL service, Linux environment integrated into Windows is more accurate. With WSL 2, Linux actually runs using a lightweight virtual machine with a real Linux kernel, while still being tightly integrated with Windows. It’s a proper Ubuntu (or whatever you want really) installation that you can run a production server off of.
Native Linux PCs speak in penguinese and celebrate their mesiah the great Torvaldius giver of kernels.
I’ve heard rumors he turned to the dark side.
Canonical should be able to see the warning sign in there
Not really. Microsoft did WSL to keep Linux users from leaving, and to gain back Windows server share. Both worked, but keeping me in Windows by allowing me to use Linux means I’m still using, expanding my usage, and becoming more dependent on Linux.
It’s exposing Windows devs to Linux, and getting people using it. Every WSL installation of Ubuntu is an installation that likely would never have been done otherwise.
I am saying, the warning sign is if each time more of the linux installs are just wsl instead of people willingly installing ubuntu at their pc
WSL is people willingly installing Ubuntu on their PC… They’re just not using gnome unity or whatever Ubuntu uses these days.
Not if that is a default you get with a generic command such as “wsl --install”, which is what most will do without looking much into it, as I see it.
Great headline, a failure for both companies. Haha! Yeah, I am a cynic and dislike canonical
Both companies are failures.
Linux nerds: “Ahh, you use Windows! You should be using Linux like me!” pushes up glasses
Some person: “Oh, OK. Ubuntu looks nice.”
LN: “NO NOT THAT ONE. That one is for losers or intellectually challenged people! You must like the one I like!” pushes glasses up into brain
(And we wonder why people don’t take the time to switch. Some of you guys are toxic.)
I chided someone earlier today for what I thought was a neckbeard superiority complex. It was a cheap shot. It’s a lot better than it used to be. The nerds tolerate you if you use Mint.
That’s because Ubuntu is the standard devops platform for intellectually challenged software engineers who don’t like choosing a quality development platform because they fear lack of documentation since Ubuntu was the distro standard for 15+ years.
Hence why its also highly used as a podman/docker image base.
And why actual linux users tend to switch or pick a superior distro.
Your average new user (non gamer)isn’t going to know about window emulators so I can see why they go ubuntu when it’s supported by software such as pcoip for example.
Despite that it and any windows program can be run on any distro using free stuff like heroic if you want a fancy button
I’m sure this is VMs in corporate environments.
This is backwards. Running Linux within Windows is such a waste of resources and mitigates a lot of the great things about Linux. Each to their own.
Yeah, go tell that to your company’s IT department.
That’s what WSL is used for: keeping developers somewhat sane in a company that’s Windows-only.
I know plenty developers who run mostly in WSL just for the ease of having Word and such software on the same machine.
Yeah they’re squares
This is happening because Linux is the default OS for servers, robots, machines, etc., it just sucks balls for normie personal computing, so they’ll use Winblows for the basic stuff, and WSL for the server-centric tasks.
Ubuntu can make it as toddler-centric as it wants, it won’t change the fact that eventually a person will find a thing their machine won’t do without an on-staff geek.
If they have heart, they’ll try chasing the black screen into the depths of google oblivion or use AI for infinitely recirculating bad advice. It’s ironic that a LLM running on a Linux server can’t fix Linux.
Most people will punt and go back to Microsucks which grows more evil and abusive every day.
I’m just mad I can’t get any of my file-management containers to work properly.
