Cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/9438338

Military pay, ammunition, tanks, planes, and compensation for dead and wounded soldiers, all contribute to the GDP figures. Put simply, the war against Ukraine is now the main driver of Russia’s economic growth.

And it is a war that Russia cannot afford to win. The cost of rebuilding and maintaining security in a conquered Ukraine would be too great, and an isolated Russia could at best hope to become a junior partner entirely dependent on China.

    • @ladicius@lemmy.world
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      64 months ago

      The first hit on NATO-soil will change the lame economical stance of Europe. Not good news for Ukraine sadly as NATO until then will be dragging its feet. I don’t understand why.

      • @Lmaydev@programming.dev
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        134 months ago

        NATO is a defensive pact and Ukraine is not in it.

        If a NATO member declared war on Russia there is no obligation from others to go to war.

        • @ladicius@lemmy.world
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          24 months ago

          You are derailing. No NATO member plans to attack that dumpster country. The opposite is the car: The dumb asshole ruzzkis did go to war and are considering to continue and to enhance it. And that’s why I say NATO and Europe should prepare.

      • @KISSmyOS@feddit.de
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        4 months ago

        Because going to war is always a very, VERY bad idea, which should only ever be considered if all other alternatives are even worse.

        • gian
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          74 months ago

          Starting a was is a bad idea. Preparing to defend yourself it not a bad idea.

        • @ladicius@lemmy.world
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          24 months ago

          You are derailing, troll.

          War is a bad idea which is why the dumb asshole ruzzkis did go to war and are considering to continue and to enhance it. And that’s why I say NATO and Europe should prepare.

          • @KISSmyOS@feddit.de
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            4 months ago

            I’m not a troll, but I’m used to the hate by now.
            Public opinion feels pretty pre-WW1-ish lately.
            Let’s give it to those Krauts Gooks Hajis Orcs! If we go in with all we got, we’ll be home by Christmas!

            • gian
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              4 months ago

              There is a difference between saying " If we go in with all we got, we’ll be home by Christmas!" and “we need to prepare so if they come with all they got, they will not be home before Christmas”.

              It is not people feels pretty pre-WWI (at least pre-WWII) but on the other hand they don’t want another post-WWI (or post-WWII)

              And the only way is to be able to say to your enemy “don’t even try to start” and meaning it.

      • @uebquauntbez@feddit.de
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        84 months ago

        It’s pretty good for China and India. Eastern Russia will be Northern China in a few years. With all ressources. Until 2038 maybe.

        • @hanekam@lemmy.world
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          54 months ago

          On the other hand, China had access to those resources already, and are now much more exposed internationally, as evidenced by recent Western efforts to “de-risk” economic relations.

          India are making a lot of money but they’ve also lost their main weapons supplier and are now forced to turn to Western countries to fill the gap. A position they most definitely didn’t want to be in.