• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Not gonna happen anytime soon.
    And there is no majority for it in UK when the reality of rejoining is explained.

    1. Give up the British pound and switch to Euro.
    2. Pay full price, the old discount membership is not an option.
    3. Dismantle FPP elections and House of lords which are both utterly undemocratic, and cause political instability.
    4. Being willing to allow EU to become even tighter (may imply giving up an additional bit of sovereignty) to be able to work with more new member states, and avoid a Hungary situation in the future.

    There is a majority in general that is for reentering, but when the above points are stated, support in the general population drops to about 13%!!

    It’s probably higher among younger people, but without mentioning the above points, no poll on reentering is worth anything, because they are polling a pipedream.

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        As things are going it is not impossible. But Canada still rely on USA as their most significant trading partner, and EU membership would dramatically complicate that relationship.

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          EU membership would dramatically complicate that relationship.

          Threatening to annex Canada and economically attacking dramatically complicated that relationship.

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      Point 4 has something in the works for 65% of countries representing 75% of the population or something like that. Unanimity is difficult with growing pools.

      The other three are chefs kiss though.

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        The problem is that we need a mechanism to stop a single country to hold back all of EU for years.
        I think most agree on that. Problem is that it probably requires to take a way a bit of sovereignty to achieve that.
        So it has to be done very carefully, to protect the rights of individual countries.
        As it is it has worked extremely well, except for the situation with Hungary that were traitors within EU that supported Russia over EU.

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      4 days ago

      The EU requires its members to abandon FPtP elections? Is that for all electable branches of government? That’s awesome.

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        IDK if there are situations where it’s not as bad as in UK. If the position has limited power, it may not be an issue. But in UK it’s not just the government, it’s the entire parliament, meaning it is crippling the opposition that is the main check on the government, and creating governments that have a vast majority, so even if some of their own don’t follow the party line, they can press things through with majority anyway.
        I have only heard it mentioned specifically regarding UK parliament.

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      Why would the UK have to give up the pound for Euro? Isn’t the political institution still different from the Euro collective (or however it’s called in EN)?

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        All new member states must join the Eurozone once they meet the economic convergence criteria.
        That’s the rules.