This is a net win. Now they won’t be recommended to everyone trying to do hardware comparisons. The bias in their results has pretty much made them worthless as a source since Ryzen released.
Unfortunately the subscription appears to be for their benchmarking tool only, not for website access.
Aren’t these the people that straight up manipulated data to make AMD look worse than Intel or something wild?
Yup. They’ve always done it, both on the CPU and GPU side, but especially on the CPU side.
Aren’t these the same guys that have a stick up their ass about AMD and/or they get paid by Intel to be biased?
I know the admins have unquestionable integrity (they certainly pretend as much) so surely they are going to retroactively pay every user who contributed their benchmarks for free. Right? When should I expect my first royalty check?
Hopefully this will hurt them up to a point where they go out of business. Just look at their review of the 5800X3D, it’s so unreal.
The 5800X3D has the same core architecture as the 5800X but it runs at 11% lower base and 4% lower boost clocks. The lower clocks are in exchange for an extra 64MB of cache (96MB up from 32MB) and around 40% more money. For most real-world tasks performance is comparable to the 5800X. Cache sensitive scenarios such as low res. canned game benchmarks with a 3090-Ti ($2,000 USD) benefit at the cost of everything else. Be wary of sponsored reviews with cherry picked games that showcase the wins, conveniently ignore frame drops and gloss over the losses. Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube, they will be singing their own praises as usual. Instead of focusing on real-world performance, AMD’s marketers aim to dupe consumers with bankrolled headlines. The same tactics were used with the Radeon 5000 series GPUs. Zen 4 needs to bring substantial IPC improvements for all workloads, rather than overpriced “3D” marketing gimmicks. New PC builders have little reason to look further than the $260 12600K which, at a fraction of the price, offers better all round performance in gaming, desktop and workstation applications. Users with an existing AM4 build should wait just a few more months for better performance at lower prices with Raptor Lake or even Zen 4. The marketers selling expensive “3D” upgrades today will quickly move onto Zen 4 (3D) leaving unfortunate buyers stuck on an overpriced, 6 year old, dead-end, platform. [Mar '22 CPUPro]
Jesus
The real Neanderthal social media account is the one writing that review.
Instruction and data caches have a real, tangible benefit. Although there is a point of diminishing returns, more L3 cache is absolutely worth a 10% clock speed trade-off for consumer systems. Fetching memory from the bus is an order of magnitude slower than fetching from cache, and the processor has to perform other work or stall while it’s waiting for that.
But, knowing the bias of the reviewer, they’re probably running DDR4 at 5200 MT/s (2000 over JEDEC specs) on their Intel systems to make up for the lack of cache while thinking, “just buy a more expensive processor and RAM, you brain-dead cretins.”
I mean it’s kinda amazing that there’s someone looking at a 14th gen Intel CPU sucking back 200+ watts, while it gets spanked by a 7800X3D running at 65 watts, and thinking “AMD is hurting consumers”. That’s some next level shit.
Well said. The only thing hurting consumers is the reviewers omitting information or spreading misinformation.
Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube, they will be singing their own praises as usual.
Wat
Fellow AMD Neanderthal Army soldiers: any idea when I get my cool uniform and …paycheck?
Zen 4 needs to bring substantial IPC improvements for all workloads, rather than overpriced “3D” marketing gimmicks.
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… the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D performs reasonably consistently under varying real world conditions.
Uhh… Aren’t… Aren’t these two statements kinda contradictory?
Not if you remember that the writers are being paid by Intel. Then, it all comes together.
You’re expecting rationale from someone who just made crazy statements because their feeling are hurt.
Nothing of value has been lost
Oh no! I won’t be able to see crappy biased comparisons and benchmarks…
That don’t actually work. My system can tell what memory I have, but you can’t? Fuck that website
My system can tell what memory I have, but you can’t?
Wait, I’m confused about this. Are you upset the site can’t tell what RAM you have. Because I’m pretty certain there is no way a site could tell that.
You give it permissions to scan. It can tell what processor, MB, and GPU I have. But not memory? Or can’t clock the speed? It’s a crap matrix to measure your computer’s performance and useless. It’s just an elitist score board. A working rig is good enough. We all want the next big thing.
I mean it just depends what the browser reports https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/deviceMemory
And nothing of value was lost…
Of all the things to try and monetize with a subscription…
Who’s more brain damaged, the site owner or the people that actually pay for it?
$10 for falsified informatiom?
The enshitification will continue until all are poor and desolate.
This site was grossly misleading at best, and commonly actively hostile to accurate information. Making it so less people can read the bad information has made the world better.
10 dollars a month to be told AMD is behind its competition based on vibes
Uh, I used it two times in the past, am shocked reading the replies here lol, where can I compare two cpus then?
I default to nanoreview when I do a Google search. It’s pretty comprehensive and easy to scan.
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Go watch tech channels on YT, there are many great channels. Gamer’s Nexus also has a website (completely ad free too) that has all of their benchmark results.
Also, Phoronix although it is Unix centric
Go watch tech channels on YT
Having to sift through who knows how many videos to get information that could be a graphic with numbers? Yeah, no, thanks.
I find this site useful, it’s part of Passmark - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
YouTube has a search function you know
Just search GN channel for the part you want to buy
It’s much better than a narrow benchmark like PassMark and they show actual real world performance
If I want to compare part X with 3 others, I’ll have to “watch” 4 videos. Give me the benchmark of each, plus the high/avg/low fps for a number of games and their settings, something Ars Technica does, and it’ll take me less time to compare than it’ll take to find the videos I “need” to watch.
… The videos have comparison charts, have you actually never watched one
And Ars is also a very good source
YAY FREE ADVERTISEMENT LETS GO LOSERBENCHMARK!!!11111
In all seriousness, these guys are ONLY the top google result because of all the “controversy.” They do it for a reason. Every time i’ve seen a thread talking about them i’ve literally downvoted it because the only way to stop the cycle is to just let them die a slow death which as far as I can tell is never going to happen. Their business model is better than anybody talking about them, posting about them, or generating ad revenue from making articles about them. We’re the clowns.
