Microsoft has quietly retracted its own documentation that suggested 32GB RAM is the “no worries” upgrade for gaming, and 16GB RAM is the baseline. This support document was likely written using a large language model, and Windows Latest first spotted it before it was taken down. Microsoft also nuked a document that recommended Copilot+ PCs for gaming.
Microsoft has a “Learning Center” where it publishes guides and marketing articles to promote various Windows features, and these rank well in search results. It’s mostly used by Microsoft to push a narrative and also make it easier for users to make a choice when they search the web.
In the first week of April, Microsoft quietly published a support document titled “Gaming features: What the best Windows PC gaming systems have in common.”
At first, the document might appear to be about Windows 11’s gaming features, but it goes a step further and builds a narrative around the memory requirement.
In the support document, Microsoft clearly notes that:
“For most players, 16GB RAM is a practical starting point. Moving to 32GB RAM helps if you run Discord, browsers, or streaming tools alongside your games. That extra memory also gives newer titles more breathing room as memory demands continue to rise.” – Microsoft.
“16GB RAM is the baseline; 32GB is the ‘no worries’ upgrade,” the company concluded in the support document, which was first spotted by Windows Latest.
This was later picked up by other outlets and the gaming community, and it didn’t go well with gamers.
I just got a whole Mac with 16GB for $600 so I dunno what you’re talking about here.
I completely made it up for the purposes of this silly meme.
I mean, yeah. The memory schedulers handle their jobs completely differently between the two. MacOS and Linux are reasonably similar, but the latter does the best job of all three; Windows is just particularly terrible at it.
I got 32 GB and Zram set up. Must be the equivalent of 128 GB on windows.
That’s probably not wrong.
I mean. I agree. I can’t imagine a modern system with less than 16gb and a competent system for any thing beyond a basic user needs 32, at a minimum. I’m on 128.
Yeah, we get it, you are rich. Go brag someplace else fat cat.
It wasn’t that expensive a couple years ago. Unmecessary to go to 128, but not that expensive.
I got 256GB of DDR4 last year for about the price of 32GB of DDR5 now.
Ya know, I’d rather just have plain text website designed for 4 gb or less. I’ve never been in the financial position to have 16 gbs, and it’s far worse now. I just want to not be denied access to text because all websites want to secretly run so much JavaScript and all the other shit. Eventually I’ll give up on the web and just be happy on gopher and Gemini.
Win11 will go web surfing just fine on 4GB. Things will be a bit snappier if you have more.
We had a rather nice thing going with pure HTML. Sure, it wasn’t the prettiest thing, even with CSS, but almost every device could run and display it in its own way.
You didn’t need a custom thing, or a bunch of extra code adjusting the webpage for each type of device that opened the web page, since that job was all done by the browser.
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Even on linux my non technical friend needed to go from 16 -> 32 because they were running out of mem playing monster hunter. So this just seems like good advice.
Its great to shit on windows but, honestly I don’t see an issue…
Linux user.
I always build my computers with a minimum of 64 GB RAM, so at first I didn’t see what the fuss was all about. But the article claims the Windows OS technically only needs 4 GB?!
And I see the push for more RAM is most likely to accommodate AI/Copilot, which needs a lot of resources to function. “Gaming” is just the excuse Microsoft is using to get people to upgrade.
This reminds me of a video I saw recently about how old computers didn’t have the space to waste code, so every line of code was micromanaged to perfection. But today’s computers have so much room on their hard drives, programmers don’t care how efficient the code is, as long as it runs. Which leads to your computer seemingly performing as slow (or slower!) than computers used to back at the turn of the century.
Our computers are more powerful than ever, multitudes more than the beginning of the Internet Age. And yet, we have so much wasted code because we have room for it, so our modern computers crawl. Imagine how fast our computers could perform if modern coders programmed like they did in the '90s and earlier.
Lol they got copilot to write it.
It is the minimum for gaming? 12gb you could be happy with maybe but that is not standard. 8gb is too little with browsers taking up like 4gb and you want to be able to play youtube videos while you play games it would be below minimum if you could not multitask reasonably.
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