• bridgeburner@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Wouldn’t say China is ‘dead against’ the EU. China just does stuff which benefits them the most, I wouldn’t say they have an inherent resentment towards the EU. And unlike the US, I believe China sees that the EU is a viable partner economically and that they would do themselves a disfavour if they were damaging those relations. Something the US doesn’t understand, they just continue to isolate themselves further and further and suffer the consequences.

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      16 days ago

      The EU’s concern is that if China becomes too dominant, their authoritarian politics could permeate across.

      However, you are right about from China’s pov. They want to trade and be left alone (although, that doesn’t mean that China may one day not try to exert wider influence). They are trying to revive the concept of China being the centre of the world. For the Chinese, they call their country “Zhongguo” meaning “Middle Kingdom”. And before the European/Western dominance, countries were dying to form diplomatic and trade relations with China, which China kinda takes advantage of by demanding tributes from states who want to open relations. China knows they are the deal.

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        16 days ago

        Well, USA is quite dominant and their imperial politics have been permeating across the world for quite some time.

        Europe should probably focus inwards and try to gain more independence from outside actors. EU can do it, mostly, it just doesn’t want to because milions of voters cannot outvote a lobbying company.

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          16 days ago

          With the current nation state model, people tend to side with the “lesser evil”. Before the second coming of Trump, people surveyed around the world expressed more favourable view of USA than China, although they trust neither.

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            16 days ago

            Yeah. Democracy kinda forces lesser evil, no? Like you can’t find politician that has platform of any value to you, but everyone tells you to vote regardless, so you end up voting for whoever looks like a lesser evil.

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      17 days ago

      I’d also add: china wants european customers, and brands, a lot more than they want anything from the US.

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      17 days ago

      The US is in an unspoken alliance with Russia and China. It is the new axis of evil and the EU should be very concerned.