• @indigomirage@lemmy.ca
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    12711 months ago

    Since Twitter has nothing to do with Tesla (beyond the emotionally stunted owner) this is serious line being crossed. I mean - I don’t care about Tesla. But I do care about SpaceX and Starlink as they have serious geopolitical implications.

    Some country’s leader disses Twitter and they don’t get to launch satellites. Or their people don’t get satellite internet.

    This amount of power should not be in the hands of one rich guy with an inferiority complex.

    • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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      211 months ago

      SpaceX and starlink are dead in the water and utterly useless until Musk has them taken away. As long as he’s running those, they’re just shitty companies with lots of empty promises

      • @linearchaos@lemmy.world
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        1211 months ago

        I wouldn’t say they’re quite dead in the water but he definitely has plenty of power to enshitify them.

        He already shut off the Ukraine from starlink when he felt like it.

        Tit for tat Disney and Tesla.

        If he fucks with SpaceX though, NASA can just stop dealing with them. They would go real quick from being profitable to begging for people to use their service.

        If he starts getting a lot of back pressure from the EU and US on what he can launch, I can put a serious dent in his wallet.

          • @linearchaos@lemmy.world
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            111 months ago

            Not necessarily SpaceX but they needed something.

            The problem with NASA is that the funding waxes and wains with the administrations, as does the demands of the administrations to give them the money.

            If something takes more than 8 years to happen chances are the project never comes to fruition. NASA has really slowed down in development in recent decades.

            Not all the innovation SpaceX is doing is really warranted, though most of it’s kind of cool. But they are investing in research and development in places that NASA simply can’t get to.

            Starlink is just a way for spacex to capitalize on that research and development. They are their own sister company customer.

            That said they can all turn into dog shit in a matter of months if somebody got a stick up their butt

        • @indigomirage@lemmy.ca
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          311 months ago

          The mars thing is really a small part of what they do, although it gets the press. They are pretty much the only real game in town for satellite launches, and, I think ISS transport (especially since Soyez is Russian and there’s not a lot of good will going on there…). Even Amazon uses them for launches. It’s approaching monopoly status for critical infrastructure (we’re very dependant on satellites as a society now).

          Mars is a labour of love for future ambition, but it’s not the main show.

          Whether the root cause is historically poor NASA funding or not (I think there’s a strong argument for competition and private sector IF it’s properly governed, but it never is…), the fact is that we’ve created a situation where vast amounts of geopolitical control rest with a single person.

        • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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          811 months ago

          Because Republicans gutted NASA for decades. They absolutely loathed that it was a generally beloved program by everyone. And for every dollar of funding saw multiple times that in the value it created. What SpaceX did wasn’t something that NASA had never thought of. They just never had the funding to really pursue it. And especially in the wasteful manner Elon musk has.

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            What did spaceX do, exactly?

            We’ve had re-usable spacecraft rated for human passengers since the Space Shuttle.

            • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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              311 months ago

              Reentry vehicle sure. Launch vehicle, no. The ocean floor is littered with booster stage debris. NASA had experimented with a lot of different methods to reach orbit. And had even looked at things that SpaceX eventually built. But never had the funding to build themselves.

              SpaceX is nothing but the culmination of a Reagan era fascist fever, dream. Ofdismantling good governance. Privatizing everything possible and then price gouging.

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                11 months ago

                I just saw SpaceX’s most recent rocket launch and it looked like they detached the boosters.

                I think they exploded afterwards, too.

                • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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                  111 months ago

                  Absolutely. But that’s only because Elon musk doesn’t mind throwing away money. He’s got so much of it. The rockets were supposed to stabilize themselves and land to be reused. He’s blown up more rockets than NASA so far. In much less time.

  • @just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    All his fanboys should be absolutely shitting bricks about this since Elon has been out there for years saying that people who purchase Tesla vehicles absolutely own them. He’s been spouting this bullshit since they got caught remotely crippling software features YEARS ago, but this is further proof Tesla owners are completely at the whim of a tyrannical douchebag who decides if you get the privilege of using something you paid for the way you want.

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      They won’t. His fanboys will find an excuse for his shitty behavior like they always do.

      It’s like hoping flat earthers would suddenly come to their senses once they see the evidence. They won’t. They would find some other shitty excuse for their stupid belief.

      Edit: stupid autocorrect. lol.

      • @dragontamer@lemmy.world
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        311 months ago

        I do believe that flat feathers exists somewhere on this pale blue dot / sphere of a world. But methinks you accidentally added an “f” to eathers and don’t mean to talk about feathers.

      • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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        211 months ago

        Each time he pulls shit like this, more people see the light about him. This one is going to disproportionately affect people who either still like him or just thought that they could own a Tesla without being affected by his stupid shit. It might hurt the stock price as some come to understand that his Twitter feuding can boil over to his other companies. Today might be the best time to exit a Tesla position (or maybe that’s just wishful thinking).

  • dantheclamman
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    1711 months ago

    Kind of wild how this guy feels entitled to have people pay him

  • @foggy@lemmy.world
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    5011 months ago

    Oh, Musk. You really wanna join the ranks with DeSantis?

    You can not out lawyer the mouse.

    • DigitalTraveler42
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      1411 months ago

      He and DeSantis are already buddy buddy, DeSantis always seems to make sure to protect Musk’s interests whenever there’s some law change that effects Tesla/SpaceX.

  • @Gemini24601@lemmy.world
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    1811 months ago

    As another once said, “Elon Musk is a stupid man’s genius,” and after all of his tantrums, I see it as true.

  • @KiloGex@lemmy.world
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    7411 months ago

    Can you imagine spending all that money on a car and expecting certain features, only for them to change based on the whims of a manchild who gets his feelings hurt?

    • deweydecibel
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      1611 months ago

      Can you imagine spending that much money on a car where this is even possible?

      Seriously, don’t ever buy a car that can have something uninstalled remotely without your consent. I can’t believe we’ve sunk this far.

    • @chitak166@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      Should be grounds for a lawsuit.

      If not by Tesla-owners, then certainly their stockholders.

      I couldn’t imagine seeing my investment take a dip because the CEO is having personal beef with another one of his poorly-run companies.

    • @flames5123@lemmy.world
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      011 months ago

      It’s just a full screen browser. You can get it for any website. There’s a simple work around that’s been there for years that uses a YouTube URL to force full screen but then redirects to Google. Then you can just go to Disney. It’s really not that big of a deal.

  • @olosta@lemmy.world
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    2311 months ago

    Bob, you know what you have to do. Remove him from Iron Man, that’s petty, useless and perfect.

    • PopShark
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      111 months ago

      I’m sure this is old news but Musk has a cameo in an iron man movie?

  • @ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world
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    1811 months ago

    And here I am just now learning that cars have streaming media apps? That seems insane to me in the first place…

    • gian
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      411 months ago

      Oh well… if you have kids in the back seats and a long travel it would not seems too insane

      • @linearchaos@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        Is there anyone left out there that hasn’t given their old cell phones to their children? My kids won’t watch tv, they’ll whip out phones when we’re all in the living room.

  • @chitak166@lemmy.world
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    3411 months ago

    Holy shit. Who wants products with this much control given to someone else?

    I seriously have no respect for anyone who buys apple or teslas.

    • @Isthisreddit@lemmy.world
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      Bro, why you lumping apple in with musk?

      Seriously, apple does a spectacular job at user privacy and security, probably second to none.

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        Because apple forced an album onto user’s phones just because they were paid to do it.

        Seriously, apple does a spectacular job at user privacy and security, probably second to none.

        Is this satire?

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          Let’s be real here, google and every other company sells you out to their advertisers instantly and even double dip and triple dip on your info wherever they can. Apple doesn’t and they take their security seriously. Feds are always crying about how hard it is to break into iphones, telcos are complaining how apple protects it’s users (because telcos have an interest in monetizing those apple users), and the payouts for finding security vulnerabilities for apple products are very high.

          Google and apple are absolutely on different ends of the spectrum of user privacy and security

          • gian
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            611 months ago

            Apple doesn’t and they take their security seriously. Feds are always crying about how hard it is to break into iphones, telcos are complaining how apple protects it’s users (because telcos have an interest in monetizing those apple users), and the payouts for finding security vulnerabilities for apple products are very high.

            This only means that Apple don’t allow anyone else to do it, not that Apple itself does not do it.