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    Desalinating water might be the best part. Usually, solar power has the downside of needing storage and desalination has the downside of big energy requirements. If you can do both at the same time, it’s a big win for dry climates with lots of sun

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    Every week with the “miracle battery!” headlines. This has been going on for ages and I’m sick of it.

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      Sodium-ion batteries are not hype though, they are in production use in multiple industries already. They are generally superior to Lithium based batteries in all regards, with the exception of having a bit lower energy density. An equivalent LiFePO4 battery might be 70-80% of the size for the same storage. It’s not a big deal for large applications like cars and solar storage.

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        Yeah, the advantages of all these sodium batteries, in my mind, is that they are stable and rugged enough to build up a backbone of a energy storage system for a grid. I’m seriously thinking about them for my house, in the UK.

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          Yes, I am very intrigued. For something the size of half a shipping container I could power my house for almost a month. This is of course fantasy because I don’t have $20,000 to throw down. But combine it with solar cells that have gotten really cheap and you could indefinitely power your house for next to nothing.

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      Charged with fusion power! From space! Made from privately mined asteroids!

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    Sodium Ion already does 5000+ cycles. Adding Vanadium is not a scalable material. It is very expensive. 400 cycles steady is not useful information because it needs to do much more. They didn’t state a wh/kg density. This is probably not a viable research vector, but “big Vanadium” has proposed a rental model to make Vanadium more scarce for other applications. Flow batteries (a fuel cell with tanks of electrolytes) provides an ultra easy way of recycling/selling the vanadium for traditional uses. Battery rental that forces returning it could be viable.

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      Right up there with the batteries that would contain about 1 kg of silver in them. Even if they didn’t become insanely expensive you’d have tweakers foaming at the mouth to steal your batteries.

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    Sodium Ion is a real game changer. But I doubt it will compete with Lithium Ion on energy density anytime soon.

    But that’s not necessary to make major changes in the power grid. Solar and wind is already cheapest form of energy generation even considering the expense of Lithium to store the energy when renewables aren’t generating. If you’re just installing stationary battery banks, you don’t care that much about the energy density as you would for a battery in a car or phone. Set up banks of cheap sodium ion batteries strategically and not only do you have plenty of power stored for when it’s not sunny or windy, you may avoid widespread power outages when power lines are downed.

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      Sodium ion has the same “energy density”, but lower density because of its honeycomb structure.

      This story is actually about a sodium-vanadium wet battery, not sodium ion. NaVn batteries are a wet flow battery that have been around for a while, they are intended for stationary power use.

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    Finally a new one!

    It was too quiet during the whole last year. But before, we had about 2 revolutionary new battery technologies every week.

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    Bullshit headline. It neither desalinates water nor it’s better than Li-ion, because you know physics is pretty hard to cheat

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    I think the real breakthrough will come when we will be able to make powerful microbatteries.

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    Man this title reminded me of an old animation involving iPhone and some Android phone, lemme go find…

    https://youtu.be/YWNQTpdcoC4

    The part about transforming into a jet and flying you to an island reminded me of the title.

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      It’s already ionized e.g. NaOH.

      The compound, called nanostructured sodium vanadate hydrate (NVOH), delivered far stronger results when used in its hydrated form.