This makes me 😭
UPDATE: Thanks @nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de for this update: The issue has now been commented on and was closed by the maintainer, where they explained why those blocks would be nonsense. But it appears the OP wants to still talk with maintainer privately about it.
Damn, that guy’s fucking dumb lmao
But also, is 7c/fakefilter even popular? It seems to barely have a following on GitHub to begin with. Seems pretty over the top to claim that PM and SL (and any other provider on that list) will get blocked from registering on websites.
The npm package has about 4000 weekly downloads. I don’t know what that means in terms of popularity.
Less than left-pad. JavaScript devs are wild.
I know it probably predates String.prototype.padStart(), but it boggles my mind that people aren’t just using the standard one.
Sick of sites requiring an account, email or phone number. Makes the web even more unfriendly. I hope temporary emails can always get around filters, as if you play stupid games you should win stupid prices.
Just keep using the temp emails and when they don’t recieve your email , call them up. Their IT support will unblock it after 50-100 calls. Remember consumers have the power.
I tried to report an issue in GitLab. I needed to input my phone number and payment information to create an account. WTF? No thanks, I’ll just not report the issue.
do you guys not have phones
When buying stuff online I find 0101etc works. Public numbers used to work fine for other things but not so much these days. If that doesn’t work I usually don’t give a damn about the service at that point (e.g. ShatGPT) #TeamBots
I used to have a disposable phone number just for signing up but it was more trouble then it was worth. If the website is shady enough, I go look somewhere else.
Sick of sites requiring an account, email or phone number.
Blame bots. The other day we had a post about how 70% of account creation processes on sites are started by bots. Imagine that if you didn’t even need confirmation.
What if account creation was local (e.g. Git and keys)?
If no data needs to be stored then no account is needed. Use the system where there is a unique indentifier based on the password.
Use the system where there is a unique indentifier based on the password.
Never heard of this, how does that work?
A tripcode "is the hashed result of a password that allows one’s identity to be recognized without storing any data about users. Entering a particular password will let one “sign” one’s posts with the tripcode generated from that password. Trying to take another user’s tripcode and compute their password from it (for instance, to make posts that appear to come from a particular person) is somewhat computationally difficult."
That’s pretty cool, but still, does that really solve the bot problem? Doesn’t it make it easier for them to spam?
Tripcodes doesn’t affect bots spamming at all.
No longer needing accounts removes whatever barrier to entry email, phone or credit card is worth. On the plus side less people are being farmed for data, so society is better off 😕
What I mean is, doesn’t that barrier being removed make things easier for bots as well? And while humans only save a bit of time once to register, bot farms would improve a lot considering they do it over and over again.
Less data farming is undeniably better, but imo if something helps bringing us further from the Dead Internet outcome I can accept it. Of course, just the bare necessities, sites that require you mail + phone + name and so on when they don’t need them to function should really dial it down.
OK simplelogin you can make an argument there, very stupid one though.
But protonmail and tutanota, wtf ?!?
Just because an email provider is privacy focused and offers custom aliases means all it’s emails are spam ?
Fuck this shit.
I wonder what happens when they find out that you can do my.name+alias@gmail.com
To be fair that’s quite easy to check with a simple regex, you can see that in many services that have cached up to that.
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Looks like you can even do this with iCloud accounts. They only let you have 3 at a time, but you can delete them whenever and create more as needed.
https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/add-and-manage-email-aliases-mm6b1a490a/icloud
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the discussion is happening here: https://github.com/7c/fakefilter/issues/73
Someone working at Proton has commented on the issue, the list maintainer wanted to take the discussion with proton private so we have only a few posts from them.
If you want my personal take:
It’s very clear how the list maintainer opposes anonymity in the internet in any form, which I see as an attack on freedom, journalism and activism.
I’m not a fan of Protonmail of any sort and in fact I consider that their privacy is lacking… but I really hope they can talk some sense into this guy. This block list seems to be used by a lot of webs that will start blocking virtually every private email provider.
(Edit: I assumed the person that posted the email list was a maintainer, but they don’t seem to have a “contributor” or “owner” badge, so idk. Maybe they are just very angry at privacy and anonymity on the internet)
These lists are used by platforms to try and cut down on spam/bot account signups. This isn’t a thing done for signups by the vast majority of platforms out there, but the API verification steps IS becoming more prevalent I suppose. I just got rejected for using a Protonmail domain to buy something outright on a very popular pet supplies platform the other day, but…eh.
They’ll just lose my business and get a stern customer support email then. I don’t do business with companies that exclude Proton/Tutanota/Skiff emails.
Bro… You’re on Lemmy. What business?
Yes, Lemmy users literally never spend any money, not once ever.
It’s very clear how the list maintainer opposes anonymity in the internet in any form,
why would anyone ever be like this?
The one who opened an issue is either 13 years old and dumb as a log or a troll (also dumb as a log) and this project is barely used, like at all
So please, don’t give them attention
It appears that the Github user GalacticHypernova is not a contributor to the 7c/fakefilter project - just someone asking for some domains to be added. The current list does not contain proton.me or protonmail.com.
I suppose this might be a reasonable litmus test for the reliability of that list.
Why does anyone care? The npm package has 3,712 weekly downloads. They’re trying to act like it’s some mainstream package that a lot of companies rely on, but nobody uses it…
as someone who uses protonamil as my main email, this is very disappointing
Funny, considering I’ve moved over to a paid proton account as my primary email, and my former primary email/Gmail account, with its ability to instantly become infinitely many disposable email addresses, is now used as exactly that. This same procedure occured many years ago, when I made my yahoo email into the disposable junk mail home, and my shiny new Gmail became my primary. I wonder how many years it be until proton becomes my disposable, and some as-of-yet to be created service becomes my new primary email. Or maybe email will finally be dead by then, and we’ll use something else entirely.
I will say, even after all of these years, and using the living shit out of my Gmail account in many, many places, I still only get two or three spam emails at most during the entire year.
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When I was trying some gacha games out I tried using a disposable email but it wouldn’t let me.
So I gotta start using my AOL email again?
They’ll never suspect CrAzY6969x@aol.com is a phony!
I’m really not a fan of heavy-handed approaches like this. I understand why most of the listed domains are on the proposed blocklist, but Tutanota and Proton are the two most common private email options. Rambler is a Russian news aggregate, so I’m not sure why that’s in the list, politics aside
Yeap 83 businesses are my clients. If they do this ,guess they will never receive my email. Poor IT support of all the businesses. RIP
That’s…a good portion of the free email providers on the planet. Even if companies are using this list as a filter for signups, it’s only going to be for a limited time.
Companies want new accounts. They don’t mind very much if those accounts are fake - big numbers get investor attention. It only takes a handful of support cases with “I tried to register but it says my email address isn’t allowed” before the C-suite makes it clear to IT that this filter is no longer in sync with the corporate strategy.
Ironically I’m paying for proton because the free services suck.
