So that kind of means that the high-end AAA PC market will crash in the next years, right? No new GPUs, production stop for existing GPUs and rising prices for GPU & RAM in combination with inflation and a bad economy ensure that many people can’t afford a gaming computer. And that a lot of those younger gamers can’t afford to start this hobby.
And that means a shrinking audience for games, which need all this GPU power. If you’re an AAA publisher, it kind of looks crazy to invest multiple millions into a game that you can’t be sure that your audience will be able to afford to play
Definitely a shrinking audience for AAA games, but I don’t think it will be too bad gamers overall. Consoles will keep marching forward, as will Valve with the Steam Deck and Steam Machine.
I think the highest of the high end graphics stuff has long since hit diminishing returns. You can do a hell of a lot with yesterday’s hardware and less-than-bleeding-edge process nodes for newer hardware. Consoles have never used bleeding edge GPUs and they’ve always done fine with sales (across the whole market, if not always individually). I think we’re highly unlikely to see a repeat of the 1983 gaming crash.
They do fine in sales because the consoles sold at loss and they make money on game sales.
Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would love to stop producing consoles and start selling you monthly service via a thin client. They just need a ready to go platform for it to gain enough mass first.
Nintendo has never sold their consoles at a loss. They sell them at a small profit which then grows to a larger profit as the cost of making them decreases.
No not really. AMD is still producing cards. Most people play on older or used cards anyways. Maybe like don’t make Crysis level Graphics but other than that one year of less GPU releases won’t kill gaming. Once the AI bubble bursts NVDIA might have lost a lot of edge over AMD in the gaming market and they’ll scramble to get back
“dont you have phones?”
Someone is going to make bank by catering to consumers. Will the market accept nvidia back with open arms if/when the ai investments fall through?
Well what do most victims of exploitation and abuse do?
Visiting Stockholm?
I hear it’s nice
As a Linux gamer, nvidia was already on thin ice.
Also I had past them up on recentish purchases since they only really controlled the highest end of the market which I don’t have the budget for. So honestly I have no intention of welcoming them back unless there is literally no other option. You made your bed.
That would be nice. But video cards are a VERY niche piece of engineering. The knowledge of HOW to make them is locked in a handful of people, and the ability to make them locked behind a very niche set of equipment that will ALSO be exploding in cost.
One does not simply start a graphics card company.
I don’t think a newcomer could do it, but a company like Intel is posed to be in a good position. They don’t have much market share but they have a good product.
The problem with that is Intel is subject to the same bullshit economic assessments as AMD and Nvidia… They’ll just as soon retool for ai as well.
Intel is arguably worse. They‘re in a bad spot right now so they can‘t do crazy things like Nvidia but they totally would and will go down the same path. I don‘t think US designed hardware will ever truly come back to end consumer products.
Nothing will. They’re moving us onto techno feudalism. We won’t earn anything and we’ll be wage slaves if they’re merciful to us, otherwise most people will be in camps and dead, unless we stand up real damn soon .
They’re actively moving away from the bottom 90% of consumers, it’s just not worth it anymore and maybe once it was worth advertising to us, but no longer. The top 10% owns 93% of stocks and control at least 55% of the market revenue as of early 2025, probably closer to 60-65% now, after tariffs, layoffs, and the nonexistent recession We’re all imagining and definitely isn’t real. /s
Intel, here’s your big chance!
Stop buying Nvidia
Easy enough when they’re not selling
Well, they are helping out with that one…
I wish there were more laptops using AMD gpus here in Brazil. You basically can’t find any laptop with an AMD gpu if you search for “gamer laptop” in Brazilian stores.
I will when someone makes a GPU that can surpass a 4090. Not even Nvidia themselves can pull that off, so I’m not getting my hopes up.
I’m going to be stuck with this GPU for the next decade the way things are going…not that I’m complaining. It’s a beast of a card, especially for someone like me who could only ever afford bargain bin parts until one day I came into a windfall. (That was a fun 4 years.) I don’t have to worry about games being unoptimized because I can simply brute force them with pure GPU processing power. I was getting 90 FPS in Last of Us on launch. Even Cities Skylines 2 runs smoothly.
Youre not actively buying from them by using what you have. nobody buys a downgrade.
The time to prevent Nvidia from practically gaining a total monopoly on the entire market by stopping buying Nvidia, was 10 years ago, not now.
Now, I’ll consider buying a GPU from you instead if you can make a GPU that satisfies technical needs like Nvidia could, but you cannot.
AMDs the last 10 years have been great. No overheating, like they did 20 years ago.
While AMD is no angel, I’m glad I went for Radeon RX 9070 XT this time. Really good GPU and fuck NVIDIA. I hope unified RDNA5 will work out for AMD.
I have gone all AMD graphics since converting to Linux. My 9060XT 16GB and 6600 8GB both are going strong.
Fuck NVidia.
Let Nvidia go bankrupt, we won’t miss it
We’re running straight into a future where consumers’ only option for computers are a cloud solution like MS 365
Pushing constantly towards a subscription economy.
That “economy” is already falling apart. Subscriptions are down, services on “the cloud” are becoming less reliable, piracy is way up again, and major nations and companies are moving to alternatives.
Hell, DDR3 is making a comeback. All that is needed is one manufacturer to start making 15 year old tech again and bam, the house of cards falls.
What could a GPU cost? $5000?
As someone not looking to spend a ton of money on new hardware any time soon: good. The longer it takes to release faster hardware, the longer current hardware stays viable. Games aren’t going to get more fun by slightly improving graphics anyway. The tech we have now is good enough.
i really hope nvidia collapses when the AI bubble pops. They’ve been more harm than good for consumers for too long.
If you want to do work with the GPU you’re still buying NVIDIA. Particularly 3D animation, video/film editing, and creative tools. Even FOSS tools like GIMP and Krita prefer NVIDIA for GPU accelerated functions.
I know radeons don’t really have the performance crown, but as a life long Nvidia GPU and Linux user, the PITA drivers are not a problem when you use an AMD radeon card.
They’re AI only now.
Would this mean AMD finally gets the supply demand it Reserves?
This is gonna suck
