YouTube’s ad blocking crackdown is facing a new challenge: privacy laws | Privacy advocates argue YouTube’s ad blocker restrictions violate the European Union’s online privacy laws.::YouTube is launching a “global effort” to crack down on ad blockers, but some privacy advocates in the European Union argue that it’s illegal.

  • @Ragerist@lemmy.world
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    418 months ago

    Wouldn’t Netflix’s password sharing fall under the same law then?

    They use user information like connected wifi and position data to determine if a device is used away from the defined “home”.

    • @scarabic@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      GDPR doesn’t say you can never use any form of user data. It says a lot about what data is considered personal, what kind of disclosure and consent you need to setup first (mostly terms of service stuff), how you can store that data, how you can use it, and what responsibilities you have to remove or produce a copy of that data on demand. Until you’ve implemented GDPR it can be hard to understand what it is. But it’s not a super bonus +1 magic shield for all information.

    • @Khanzarate@lemmy.world
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      -88 months ago

      No.

      Netflix logging your IP is the equivalent of taking a photo of someone in public. Not ideal if you’re into privacy, but it’s a public place, so it’s your problem. YouTube’s Adblock detection is equivalent to patting them down to see if they have a weapon and requiring their ID. The software actively looks for changes, using technology that could detect what extensions you have installed, gather data to profile you better for ads, and monitor what you’re doing in your browser while the tab is open.

      Both are ultimately for the same purpose, to prevent people from avoiding to pay them, but methods matter.

        • @MrOxiMoron@lemmy.world
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          -28 months ago

          Wow, so basically blacklisting email sender’s on ip address isn’t allowed either? When is an IP address, an individual and when is it just a machine in the cloud?

          • gian
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            118 months ago

            You can. After all the GDPR does not forbid you to not accept to talk to someone.

          • @Aux@lemmy.world
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            28 months ago

            GDPR does NOT prohibit storing any information indefinitely if it is required for proper functioning of the service. If the service bans you by IP, they need your IP indefinitely to function properly and GDPR doesn’t apply. Just like you can’t remove yourself from a creditor black list, and it will have a lot more personal information than just an IP address.

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            What matters is the association of the IP to a person or account. If you receive spam and block the source IP it’s not personal data. If you create an account on a website and they store your IP to it then it is.

            Handling IPs for necessary technical service protection can also be acceptable without explicit consent as long as it’s limited/temporary (you may be able to handle that without account association in the first place anyway).

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      358 months ago

      So Google are a bunch of scammers?

      Yeah, their whole business model is a scam. A currently (mostly) legal one, but a scam nonetheless.

      • @lorkano@lemmy.world
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        I can’t blame them for wanting to restore monetization as adblockers removed most of the revenue from those platforms. But fighting adblockers is not a way to do this. They should either change entire YouTube business model to pay to access, or rework ads to be less annoying. If ads were not annoying as fuck, people wouldn’t be pushed to install adblock in the first place. Adblock became popular when video ads with sound started popping up on the websites. This includes video ads in YouTube videos, people just hate to watch video ads.

        • @LemmysMum@lemmy.world
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          For every person using an ad blocker there’s 10,000 that don’t. Going after the fraction of a percent of perceived lost revenue from people who wouldn’t click your ads or buy your products anyway is just the epitome of greed.

          • @Coach@lemmy.world
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            68 months ago

            Agreed. There is always a subset of customers in which a business loses money. The corporations today have grown soft and cannot stomach a loss. It’s time we stop catering to weak companies and start catering to those who understand the risks associated with owning a business.

            • gian
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              38 months ago

              Nah, their problem is some analyst, which does not understand what he was speaking of, who decide that the company should grow by x% in the next quarter. If the company grow only by x -1 % then investors sell, the stock lose value, the shareholders are poorer and the big wings of the company may lose their job due to “loss of confidence in the management” from the shareholders.