• gian
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    2 days ago

    People that vote for a Party like afd are nazi friends.

    Maybe, maybe not. What you are missing is that AfD is not a cause but a consequence.
    I have no doubt that in Germany there still is a certain number of nazis, like we have in Italy. But guess what ? Up until some years ago they where nowhere near to be considered nothing more than a small group with radical ideas (than, to be honest, you have also on the left a small group with radical ideas, so…).

    Since their (AfD) ideas are the same, the fact that now they get way more votes only means that way more people started voting for them (like it happened with Fratelli D’Italia in Italy) and since I don’t belive that people become nazi overnight the only explanation is that evidentely people are getting tired of the other political parties, for whatever reason. If I should look at what happen in Italy, the reason is because now the Left wings does not care about common people problems.

    The assumption that people is nazi but somehow did not vote for a nazi party is stupid, Afd existed way before getting so many votes, so what changed to make people vote for a nazi party after years that the same people voted for non nazi parties ? Find the answer to this question and you will find the cause for AfD growth.

    And of you are friends with a nazi you are a nazi…

    And if you are friends with a gay you are gay, works better that way ?

    Many are not allowed to work because it is not sure where they are from, because they can not proof they have what is needed for the job etc… And instead of trying to let them take Tests sothey can proof they can work they are not allowed. Sure there are some that dont want to work or cant but that wont be the majority…

    I agree, that is a problem, but it is a problem to know where they are from or what skill they have if they came here without any document (not even the ID) and try to flee the moment they touch the land (look what happen when immigrants disembark in the Southern Italy).
    Trying to have them to take tests to verify how skilled they are has as prerequisite that they want to take the test. The 6500 Syrian doctors wanted to part of the society. And parties like AfD will be still what they were for years (little groups with radical ideas and no real power or voice) if the only immigrant are the doctors and highly skilled worker that contribute to the society because people would not see them as a problem.
    The common people do not see as a problem the Syrian doctor (or nurse or highly skilled worker), but the Syrian that live by petty crimes or pretend to live on welfare.

    Its the same as people believe that the “bürgergeld Empfänger” are a bigger problem than the ultra rich few that dont pay taxes %wise to their wealth

    That the ultra rich should need to pay their fair share of taxes is obvious. It can be simply done closing all the loophole they use (but strangely no one want to do it).
    But the assumption that if the few ultra rich pay their fair share of taxes than evertything will be solved is beyond stupid.

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      2 days ago

      The cause for more fascist is that overall for more people it is worse… Why is it worse? Cost of living is up, no one can buy a house, press is telling that its the fault of Immigrants or the people that cant work… meanwhile it is because of the few rich that hoard everything. You saying that being friends with someone being gay makes you gay is absurd. I dont mind anyone being gay i mind being friends with someone that Wants to kill foreigners… One is smth you cant choose (the being gay) one is choosing to be scum… Afd Wants to deport anyone that even has parents that are not White… It is not about people that contribute but about skin color…

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        The cause for more fascist is that overall for more people it is worse… Why is it worse? Cost of living is up, no one can buy a house, press is telling that its the fault of Immigrants or the people that cant work… meanwhile it is because of the few rich that hoard everything.

        Or, maybe, the parties in power do not understand anymore what people need/want.

        Just an example, last week in Italy we had a strike, organized by the Left wing parties and the biggest labor unions, against the war in Palestine. Now, for how bad the situation in Palestine can be, do you really think that a family in Italy that are living on the edge of poverty because of the low salary and few jobs (which lower the salary because there is always someone who are willing to work for less if the alternative is no job and eventually you can pay under the table an illegal immigrant) with the problem of putting 3 meals a day on the table for his children really care about it ?

        It is true that more people vote for Right and fascist and that happen because it is worse for more people and the point is that all the other parties do not understand it and they continue to do the same things that make it worse for more people.

        It is not a coincidence that AfD begin to grow after the illegal immigrant became too much. It is not a coincidence that Fratelli D’Italia won the elections after the PD+M5S focused only on the illegal immigrant and other questions concerning a very little number of people.