SUVs and pickups are a problem in European inner cities, which is why some cities put restrictions on them such as Paris.
SUV are not the problem, they are just an easy target since often they are seen, true of false that it can be, as the car used by rich and arrogant people (and at the beginning it was true).
To be clear, if you think SUV should be banned because their size, you need to ban also the 7-seaters car that often are bigger than a SUV. For example, my old Scenic 7-seater was a little bigger than my actual car which is classified as SUV, so where is the logic of banning a SUV with the pretense that it is too big for the city but allowing me to drive around with a even bigger car ?
I would agree if you say “we must ban all the car longer than X and wider than Y”.
Also you don’t need a SUV for free time.
And how can be so sure ?
If you need the space, buy a stationwagon.
It is an option, but the are normally bigger than SUV (at least longer), so you exchange a SUV for a, sometimes, bigger car, so again, what is the point of allowing me to use a bigger car instead of a SUV ?
If you want to go offroading, buy a MTB or MTX instead. Also most SUVs are pretty crappy offroad vehicles.
No offroading, just need a lot of space for equipment.
But 7 Seaters have a clear purpose and are mostly used for transporting multiple people. SUVs usually only have five seats, have crappy emissions and mostly seniors drive them in Germany. Why the hell do senior citizens need SUVs?
But 7 Seaters have a clear purpose and are mostly used for transporting multiple people. SUVs usually only have five seats, have crappy emissions and mostly seniors drive them in Germany.
It is not that the 5-seaters version of the same model were/was that much smaller in size than a SUV. What I noted is that people think SUV are bigger because they looks bigger but once you go to check the measures you discover that they are not that big, in fact there bigger cars that are not classified as SUV nor PickUp.
And I suspect that my old 1.5 liter 7 Seater was, emission wise, worst than my new hydrid 1.4 liters SUV.
Why the hell do senior citizens need SUVs?
I would point on the fact that since the SUV is a little bit higher they can enter and exit more easily than on a sedan or a minivan.
The difference between a stationwagon and an SUV is that a stationwagon is usually narrower and uses space efficiently.
Narrower maybe, but I doubt it use the space efficiently. Let’s say that a stationwagon is just a 7 Seaters without the 2 additional places and a little lower.
That can be a problem, I agree, even if I think that in the impact with a person the height of the bonnet is a relative problem in respect of the force tranfered from the car to the person.
Again, you don’t need an SUV for equipment unless it is professionally. If you need the space, fold over seats or buy a stationwagon.
I disagree. In the end you are telling me that I just need a car that is about 10 cm narrower (if even that) than my current one with the same load capacity (in volume). It does not make any sense if the problem is the occupied space.
Also checked the bans on SUVs in certain cities and they go by five meters length and two meters width for non-commercial vehicles. Though in parking lots, two meters width without mirrors is still going to be a space issue. So let’s at least agree on that a private vehicle shouldn’t be more than five meters long. That would mean you can take a Tiguan or a Dacia Duster into a city, but not most Mercedes or Land Rover SUVs.
Are you sure you don’t drive a crossover or a MPV? 1.4 liters sounds awfully small for a motor for a SUV. Usually SUVs in Europe have upwards of 1.8 liter engines.
Also when you consider what the US wants to import, we are talking about vehicles bigger than 5.5 meters in length and two meters in width.
Are you sure you don’t drive a crossover or a MPV? 1.4 liters sounds awfully small for a motor for a SUV. Usually SUVs in Europe have upwards of 1.8 liter engines.
Yes, it has a 1400 (a little less) gasoline engine, but it is an hybrid. And it is classified as SUV by the brand, not me.
Also when you consider what the US wants to import, we are talking about vehicles bigger than six meters in length and two meters in width.
I know, but it is to be seen if they are sold.
One thing is to say what cars US want to sell, another thing is if people buy these cars. And my bet is that such cars would not sell (if not in small numbers), too much expensive to run here where gasoline is much more expensive, regardless the dimensions.
Until it will become.
SUV are not the problem, they are just an easy target since often they are seen, true of false that it can be, as the car used by rich and arrogant people (and at the beginning it was true).
To be clear, if you think SUV should be banned because their size, you need to ban also the 7-seaters car that often are bigger than a SUV. For example, my old Scenic 7-seater was a little bigger than my actual car which is classified as SUV, so where is the logic of banning a SUV with the pretense that it is too big for the city but allowing me to drive around with a even bigger car ?
I would agree if you say “we must ban all the car longer than X and wider than Y”.
And how can be so sure ?
It is an option, but the are normally bigger than SUV (at least longer), so you exchange a SUV for a, sometimes, bigger car, so again, what is the point of allowing me to use a bigger car instead of a SUV ?
No offroading, just need a lot of space for equipment.
But 7 Seaters have a clear purpose and are mostly used for transporting multiple people. SUVs usually only have five seats, have crappy emissions and mostly seniors drive them in Germany. Why the hell do senior citizens need SUVs?
The difference between a stationwagon and an SUV is that a stationwagon is usually narrower and uses space efficiently. SUVs on the other hand don’t use space efficiently and the bonnets are a lot higher than with stationwagons. https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/road-safety-fears-from-increasing-car-bonnet-height
https://suv-alliance.org.uk/blog/suv-tall-bonnets-clear-risk-children
Again, you don’t need an SUV for equipment unless it is professionally. If you need the space, fold over seats or buy a stationwagon.
It is not that the 5-seaters version of the same model were/was that much smaller in size than a SUV. What I noted is that people think SUV are bigger because they looks bigger but once you go to check the measures you discover that they are not that big, in fact there bigger cars that are not classified as SUV nor PickUp.
And I suspect that my old 1.5 liter 7 Seater was, emission wise, worst than my new hydrid 1.4 liters SUV.
I would point on the fact that since the SUV is a little bit higher they can enter and exit more easily than on a sedan or a minivan.
Narrower maybe, but I doubt it use the space efficiently. Let’s say that a stationwagon is just a 7 Seaters without the 2 additional places and a little lower.
That can be a problem, I agree, even if I think that in the impact with a person the height of the bonnet is a relative problem in respect of the force tranfered from the car to the person.
I disagree. In the end you are telling me that I just need a car that is about 10 cm narrower (if even that) than my current one with the same load capacity (in volume). It does not make any sense if the problem is the occupied space.
Also checked the bans on SUVs in certain cities and they go by five meters length and two meters width for non-commercial vehicles. Though in parking lots, two meters width without mirrors is still going to be a space issue. So let’s at least agree on that a private vehicle shouldn’t be more than five meters long. That would mean you can take a Tiguan or a Dacia Duster into a city, but not most Mercedes or Land Rover SUVs.
Are you sure you don’t drive a crossover or a MPV? 1.4 liters sounds awfully small for a motor for a SUV. Usually SUVs in Europe have upwards of 1.8 liter engines.
Also when you consider what the US wants to import, we are talking about vehicles bigger than 5.5 meters in length and two meters in width.
Yes, it has a 1400 (a little less) gasoline engine, but it is an hybrid. And it is classified as SUV by the brand, not me.
I know, but it is to be seen if they are sold.
One thing is to say what cars US want to sell, another thing is if people buy these cars. And my bet is that such cars would not sell (if not in small numbers), too much expensive to run here where gasoline is much more expensive, regardless the dimensions.