• @AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Steve Jobs was a piece of shit human being who contributed nothing to technology.

    That said, he was a hell of a skilled bullshitter/marketer. Most people fucking looooove to be bullshitted, and Americans more than most.

    It’s why we elect virtually no wonks/technocrats, even though thats who we should elect almost exclusively. We’d rather some snake oil motherfucker sell us on magical lies while telling us we’re pretty.

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      8 months ago

      I’ve never complimented, or defended Steve Jobs before, because he was a grade A piece of shit…but, Steve Jobs transformed technology precisely because he was a phenomenal salesman, with a great eye for technical talent.

      Just because he wasn’t an engineer, doesn’t change the fact that he forged Apple into what it became, and that absolutely contributed to modern technology - for better, and worse.

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        8 months ago

        I think marketers should get to take credit for ad campaigns they create, and engineers should get to take credit for technology they create.

        Capitalists just want to take the credit for what others do. Societal leeches. I don’t buy into their false narrative that providing the means of production they hoard out of greed means they deserve most to all of the credit for what they permit talented people to engineer and produce by the swear of their brow and the migraines of their solutions.

        We should be rewarding the Teslas of the world for what they invent, and punishing the Edisons that would claim other’s inventions as their own. But we suck, so we won’t.

        • circuscritic
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          68 months ago

          Moving goalpost?

          You said he didn’t contribute to technology, so I pointed out that he’s responsible for Apple becoming what it became, which itself transformed technology.

          Now, you’re saying he shouldn’t get technical credit for…making the iPhone?

          Okay…I never said he should…but it you want to go down that path, he was very hands-on with in the design processes for two of their most pivotal products: the iMac and iPod.

          Again, he was a grade-A douche bag, who died a fucking hilariously stupid death, but that doesn’t erase, or override his impact.

            • circuscritic
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              58 months ago

              It has nothing to do with congratulating.

              You made a false statement, and then moved the goalpost (motte and bailey) when I pointed it out.

              Simple as that.

    • Billiam
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      78 months ago

      wonks/technocrats

      …Knowledge Fight-like typing detected?