Eh, you’re both right.

You’re both saying the same thing, but your message was sarcastic/cynical and to an extent, self-defeatist.

I don’t have a horse in this race, but I also observe that comments like the one you made generally result in zero subsequent conversation of the root post’s content.

Maybe my opinion is dated/anecdotal.

My belief re: critics comes from early days of Tesla, when the concept of a fast ev was very foreign to most auto journalists. So, most of the reviews were something along the lines of “I wanted to hate this car, but goddamn if it isn’t faster than insert critic’s favorite sports car and way more useful too. I’m converted.”

Re: people in general, I’m basing it off of people I know who own them. That’s admittedly a very small sample size (~a dozen), but their opinions are the polar opposite of what you’ll find on random Internet forums. There’s definitely selection bias going on in both directions.

For what it’s worth, I’m very aware of the QA issues and no I don’t own a Tesla myself.

I’m not defending this practice (it’s gross), but people and critics almost universally love many people and critics who actually own/drive Teslas love them.

So, you’re kind of mischaracterizing them as “worse than other cars.”

edit: it’s unsurprising that this comment is downvoted in a thread hellbent on shitting on Tesla. I don’t know what I expected.

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They moderate rigorously.

Participating in one of their threads is like attending a university course.

Most people don’t have the context to actually participate in the discussions, but the quality is on a completely different level.

Damn this thread is negative as hell.

I’m one of the most cynical, pessimistic people I know, but not in here.

Kinda wish people’s first reaction were “good,” not “yeah right, remember Bell in the 80’s?”

Maybe I’m naive, but this seems like good news to me. Even if it doesn’t actually result in Amazon being broken up, at least it indicates someone is doing something.

“Don’t let perfection be the enemy of progress” or something like that.

Pet peeve of mine: nothing about this is “ironic.”

If the author really wants an adverb, I’d probably go with “unsurprisingly.”