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    2 days ago

    Haha, it’d be funny if NATO perceived that as a threat and just blew up Tesla’s European offices.

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    X should be expriorpiated, renamed back to Twitter, and made into a public non-profit service that runs on his taxes.

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          The Tuah Hawk is a majestic bird.

          Twitter peaked around 2014 and it was pure shit since as all the right wing thugs and Nazis overtook it.

          Humans can’t be humans.

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    In the US they just seized TikTok because they didn’t like it, being under Chinese control.

    Why don’t we just do the same to X in the EU? It must make sense in their minds… orrrr??

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      Nah, just make them pay the taxes in EU without any loophole to avoid them. And it could be done simply even without they collaboration.

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    It is time for the EU to kick out all these too big to fail corporations that are openly hostile to European culture. Megacorporations are a direct threat to all citizens rights.

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      This. It’s crazy to think some dumbass rich american can openly ask for the dissolvement of a progressive, free market just because it tries to protect it’s citizen from greed, propaganda and stolen data.

      Fuck Elon, and fuck every american oligarch that thinks Europe will just buckle for them.

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        I don’t think that at all. and if anybody asks why I’m even commenting on this when I live in America, its because most of my extended family lives there. I share their pain.

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        Microsoft will be easier, at least for public services, in the coming future since Europe currently pushes hard for FOSS instead of US owned companies.

        For consumer markets we’ll need better alternatives still because it’s harder to convert your citizens away from something they grew up to be used to over the last 20 years.

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          How far along adopton though? I see a few German city councils move across to FOSS but I would guess it’s a long way to go before US equivalents are the smaller percentage.

          If you wanted to replace Office 365, intune and Azure, what would your foss equivalents be? I guess the OS would Be something like SUSE and Libre Office for documents, but what about cloud storage and online document editing? What is the FOSS equivalent GUI driven MDM of Linux devices or cloud directory services? I ask this as I haven’t heard of the equivalents rather than to argue they don’t exist.

          It’s a struggle to get consumers off of Twitter, at this point I don’t believe we will get them to drop iPads, Chromebooks etc unless we are actually at war with America, it feels impossible. I’d argue that will be true for a lot of EU based international business also.

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      They are not too big to fail for Europe. The EU has fined msft, Google, meta and others. Apple even changed their flagship product to comply.

      Why ban them when you can tax them and fine them if they don’t comply? Sure, we need to be vigilant of lobbying, but there are no current alternatives to most American tech giants.

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        You make excellent points. I truly believe with open source and some investments that every government can host everything they need internally.

        I think this could have been done twenty years ago, but it is never too late to invest in our collective software future instead of letting corporations monopolize everything.

        As far as social media, they will have to comply or exit the market. I would be wary of places like Zombie Twitter. They have already been proven to interfere with elections in other countries.

        We are obviously facing a lot of policy making in order to reign in our digital future. Unfortunately, the US shows exactly zero appetite to pump the breaks. Let alone pull the ebrake and come to a screeching halt like they need to.

        We don’t need to be reminded that Meta and Microsoft have contributed server resources to enacting a genocide. Even IBM helped the Nazi with their final solution during WWII. American companies are absolutely not to be trusted.

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    “Anything that calls me out on my bullshit should be abolished”. - Elon Musk

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    IMO: the DSA & DMA should hold executives accountable for their company’s behaviour. Someone is making those decisions. And all of the corporate law in the world would be abided a whole lot faster and a hell of a lot more diligently if there was the executive’s skin at stake for breaking it.

    Also: Fuck Musk, as he’s a Nazi cunt making a Hitler salute at when being inaugurated as a minister.

    Edit: Also, the only thing destroying european culture are the Techno-oligarchs in the USA.

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      Nah you see they are silent responsible for the companies success. But when something goes wrong there is no possible way they could know everything that goes on in the company. And they get big pay because they take all the risk. I have never understood that one what risk golden parachute not big enough.

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      Not the only thing, oligarchs from the east are also doing their part, and to be honest, oligarchs from within too.

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    I said the same thing about cops after getting a speeding ticket. Maybe Elon is just like the rest of us after all. /s

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    “I got caught and punished for breaking the law. Those laws shouldn’t exist though by the way 😢, for unrelated reasons of course”

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    This is strong evidence that EU is actually working for the benefit of the general population, and not just for the benefit of the rich.

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      Nah, the EU is just “less sellout” than most others. There are terrible things coming from the EU as well. But generally I much prefer living in the EU than pretty much anywhere else.

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        Or put another way: While there are bad things coming from the EU, there are actually often also pretty good things coming from it. It’s all relative of course, but I also can’t see another place where I would rather live.

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        Notice how I very carefully wrote “not JUST for the benefit of the rich”

        EU is not one sided, it also has a lot of stuff that makes it possible to run a business well, and so it ALSO benefit the rich, but contrary to more corrupt/greedy societies, EU does a lot to also protect consumers and human rights.

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      Not really, just that it doesn’t work in favour of this rich guy in particular.

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        This rich guy is the richest man in the world thanks also to the business he does in europe. We are talking below a thread about something he said. You are getting fooled hard

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      This is strong evidence that you are getting all fooled like idiots. You are talking below a thread about something elon musk said