Why would I upgrade to an OS that pushes ads on my login screen and start menu? Some software forces me to keep a windows machine around but I’m certainly in no hurry to upgrade from 10 to 11.
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I’m still using Windows 7 in my home computer, for gaming no less, and only recently did some games come out that don’t support it and the only significant push to upgrade is the upcoming (end of year) end of Steam support for it, which is just going to make me use my Linux partition for games more.
Roughly only in the last 2 years have I started to have any inconveniences from having Windows 7 - basically the latest KiKad, for circuit design, doesn’t support it, so I kept using the previous version which has very rarelly has forced me to go find component and footpads which I would otherwise have already in the latest one.
The point being that if Windows 7 only started to get incovenient to use (both for gaming and professionally) well beyond not just Windows 8 having been launched but even Windows 10 having been launched, it’s reasonable to expect that Windows 10 will still be fine for use for many years.
Fortunately I don’t need gaming features on that machine, I only need to boot it to use things like Odin to flash a Samsung tablet or run crappy Nintendo Switch tools from gbatemp.
It’s very much a 4th or 5th string machine for me.
The single biggest reason is that Microsoft significantly limited the hardware that can be used for W11 with the TPM and stringent hardware needs.
I actually disabled tpm in the bios so windows 11 wouldn’t be installed…
I enabled it on mine and I STILL cannot upgrade.
Not that I want to upgrade but I don’t understand the logic behind the requirements at all. I have a cheap and weak little travel notebook thats apparently elegible, meanwhile my desktop thats very modern and could probably run an atomic scale simulation of that notebook is apparently not suitable.
Pretty much any modern CPU has a TPM module built-in. Good chance you just need to go to the BIOS and enable it.
I would have upgraded a while ago if my hardware supported it. The kernel upgrades are pretty zippy.
The comparisons in the article are boneheded.
According to Statcounter, the worldwide Windows version desktop market share puts Windows 10 at 71.64 percent, with Windows 11 trailing at 23.61 percent.
To put that in context, Windows 11 was launched two years ago today. Windows 10 was launched in 2015 and took two years to reach the same market share as the then-dominant player, Windows 7.
Comparing the numbers of the move from 7 to 10 to that from 10 to 11 ignores that whole shitshow with 8.0 and the correction of 8.1.
Of course it’s easier for 10 to dethrone 7 when there is the spoiler effect of 8 and 8.1!
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I said it before, and I say it again. Once I am forced to switch to win 11, I’m not doing so. I’m simply switching to Linux.
Windows has been on a downward spiral and I don’t see that improving anytime soon
My rig is outdated but plays all the games I play. I can’t afford a gaming rig update just to get Windows 11 with start menu ads and junk.
I heard they took out a lot of junk. But I’m not going near it.
There’s a way to install it where you use a non-America language and it causes it to not install all the junk.
I read about it a couple weeks ago and once again, I said to myself, “ORRRR, I can just stay on Windows 10…”
I will die before I use Windows 11.
“Upgrading” from 7 to 10 was already painful enough.
It’s true. Windows 11 looks too different for many people, especially in Enterprise and Small Business. People know the Windows 7/10 look and layout and don’t want to learn something new.
Also, when we rolled out 10 in the Enterprise we had our fair share of issues which were eventually worked out over time. Now 10 is finally stable, no one wants to change it again.
Especially in a Manufacturing business where every second counts and any delays cost money, you don’t have time for Windows issues.
Microsoft should make Windows 10 a “Pro” OS for Enterprise and support it forever, and make Windows 11 the “Home” OS for families to use at home. After all they only did it to complete with MacOS, which is predominantly used by home users and doesn’t feature massively in Enterprise
Look at the bright side - there’s gonna be shitloads of not that old enterprise hardware on the market.
During the rise of work from home the last few years, my wife needed a home desktop setup. I picked up a used Dell micro for like $200, installed 10 and we were off. She basically just needed an RDP connection so nothing special.
If she needed to continue past when 10 was supported I’d just throw Fedora on there and go through FreeRDP.
I’ve got another micro running some VMs on Proxmox. I love these things.
Seriously this. I got an Optiplex. It’s changing my life to have a reliable second computer at my desk.
I don’t even understand why Windows 11 exists. I thought Windows 10 was meant to be the last version and then it was continually upgraded. They never add any particularly good new features, so I’m happy with security updates and staying behind a few months on feature updates to avoid being a beta tester.
Oh, and Windows 11 removed the ability to put the taskbar on the left or right, and I would have thought that perhaps teams of engineers and designers paid 100k+ in a trillion dollar company would be able to make that a reality, regardless of whether or not it’s only 1% of users (millions of people) that use that feature. I heard the right click menus have been fucked up by some idiot as well, and the sad thing is they probably spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make them that way, after many many depressing meetings and someone had to task it all out in Azure, whilst gradually losing the will to live, just to eventually make an already existent feature worse. Nice job Microsoft.
I’m happy to wait until Windows 11 is at least at feature parity with Windows 10 and thoroughly tested before I “upgrade”. I suspect some things got better, but it isn’t worth it.
I upgraded to windows 11 at the urging of security updates and such.
They really took away a bunch of features that make it difficult, for me as someone with a disability, to use the computer comfortably. I have made complaints about the problem and have basically received only “thank you for your feedback”.
I have a loss of mobility in my hands and wrists as well as arthritis, so sometimes I have difficulty using the mouse and clicking around on the screen.
They the slide bars on the side of the file explorer and the web browsers (at least what I’ve noticed so far) so tiny and hard to click for me since I don’t have as much as accuracy as normal users. I have to very carefully focus and make sure I click properly or I can’t slide the bar. I attempted to resize this through some settings but it ends up making the web browser slide bars too big and barely makes a difference for the file explorer.
Then in addition to that, the design of the task bar at the bottom where it’s centered in the screen is extremely frustrating for me to use. I am constantly misclicking items there as it was and then they added a bunch that I didn’t want. I spent probably an hour resizing it and removing unnecessary items there.
And while it doesn’t relate to my disability, I didn’t like the little dots they used to indicate an open program, I preferred the outline. Which you can change but it wasn’t very intuitive, I had to figure it out through googling!
I feel like Windows always grabs ui ideas from the Linux desktops. Well, Windows 11 is Windows but designed by Gnome.
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Just curious. What does the process of “pushing an app company to go Linux” look like?
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Munt?
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Putting the obvious privacy issues aside (which also exist in Windows 10), my friends/family who use Windows actually enjoy Windows 11. Most people don’t care about privacy, they enjoy running the most recent windows edition whatever that is.
The problem is that Windows 11 introduced some really arbitrary hardware requirements and people who actually want to upgrade don’t have the tech knowledge to bypass them. These sites think people hate windows 11 but they’re just too poor to upgrade.
Just so everyone knows at one point Microsoft was forced to buy your unused windows key on a new computer. It would be a damn shame if we forced them to do that again.
Pro tip here, ASUS will give you a refund for the cost of a windows license if you hassle them enough.
In theory you need to not have activated Windows on the laptop but in practice I don’t think they have any way of verifying this.
The cost of the license on their end, or the cost of a license as you would buy it personally?
The cost of the license as passed on to the customer IIRC.
Honestly good to see that they are willing to do that!
These will be the same people forever defending and holding on to 11 after 10 is dead and 12 has been out forever. Just like all times before. The people holding on to 7 are now these staunch 10 defenders after it was obvious 7 was a crutch.
I think there is a fair balancing point between jumping on the newest release of an os, when you have an established workflow, and don’t know about longevity (windows 8 had a shorter than normal support cycle) and holding on to an outdated os for ever and ever.
I don’t plan on switching to win 11 anytime soon, but I eventually will I’m sure.
This time really is different because windows is ending updates for windows 10 in 2025 AND they will not allow many computers to upgrade to windows 11, your only choice is to buy a new computer, which obviously isn’t an option for everyone.
I built my gaming PC in 2017 and it still runs all the games and editing programs I want, but it is not eligible to upgrade to W11 because their DRM won’t work on my processor.
I’ll use my Win 10 machine as the daily driver until the very last day of support. I game in 1080, and my 6gb 1060 coupled with my 6700k blows all but the very latest and most demanding games out of the water.
By the time I’m strong armed into Win 11, there might be a better option by then, but at the very least it will be a nice cheap time to upgrade to 2-3 year old hardware so I can continue playing factorio, but in 1440 instead of 1080.
Factorio from 1080>1440 is like seeing in 4 dimensions. It’s beautiful 😍
