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CAVOK@lemmy.world to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 2 months ago

Ukraine to buy 100-150 Swedish Gripen planes. Hope to start using them next year.

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Ukraine to buy 100-150 Swedish Gripen planes. Hope to start using them next year.

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CAVOK@lemmy.world to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 2 months ago
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Ukraina vill köpa över 100 Jas Gripen – avsiktsförklaring tecknad
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Ukraina vill köpa 100 till 150 Jas Gripen E – den nyaste och mest avancerade versionen av flygplanet. En avsiktsförklaring mellan länderna har ingåtts, uppger statsminister Ulf Kristersson under en pressträff.
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  • cron@feddit.org
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    According to wikipedia, Saab has produced 280 jets in 30 years. A single order in the magnitude of 100+ jets is absolutely massive.

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    Also massive L as in Lockheed Martin lol

    Seriously good that this will help bring independence from US.

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      Seriously good that this will help bring independence from US.

      I think the Gripen is a good fit for Ukraine, but for true independence from the US, we have to find a European engine for it. The US used the American engine of it before to exert pressure.

      • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
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        Kind of ironic that a SAAB plane doesn’t have its own SAAB engine

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          Even ‘worse’:

          Following the typical Swedish approach of ‘everybody gets a piece’, the engine of the SAAB came from Volvo…! ;)

          That engine was based on an American though and the new one of the modern variants is afaik directly American.

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            It’s an American design, but it’s built and modified in Sweden.

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              The original RM12 of the early versions, yea. Although I don’t know whether the US also have any leverage over that product since it is a derivative of the GE F404. For the new Gripen versions, SAAB unfortunately uses the GE F414 directly.

              • CAVOK@lemmy.worldOP
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                TIL. Thanks.

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          Volvo made aircraft engines for SAAB at one point. It makes sense when you account for the size of Sweden and the complexity of an aircraft that it’s a big challenge for one business or nation to build alone.

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        We do have rolls royce of course… They should be able to cook something up. And CFM is half French.

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          We have the Eurojet EJ200, a European development for the Eurofighter Typhoon. Maybe one of them could be a domestic replacement for the new Gripen versions.

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        Good thing Germany orders F35 from US again instead of supporting an european solution!

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          Only a small subfleet to carry the nuclear weapons, the main fighter jet will be a European / international non American one.

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    Translated: https://omni-se.translate.goog/zelenskyj-landar-i-sverige-diskuterar-stor-export/a/Gyzrpx?_x_tr_sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

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    If this is true then it’s amazing!

    • CAVOK@lemmy.worldOP
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      It’s very real. https://www.government.se/swedish-treaty-series/2025/10/letter-of-intent-between-ukraine-and-sweden-concerning-cooperation-in-the-field-of-air-capabilities/

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