• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    My wife is very progressive and believes in human rights. Her Facebook feed went conservative about a week ago now with constant right wing propaganda.

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        How else you get big bucks from selling surveillance tech to the state? Not with principled politicians.

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          2 months ago

          It’s almost as though most of the techbros are fascists who read about half of Atlas Shrugged and think it makes them smart.

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            The left had so many things they hated that the right manipulated them into cancelling every single celebrity with a skeleton in their closet. This made all of the terrified. At the same time the right showed they will defend and enrich anyone who even looks their way. The left alienated everyone they could, the right embraced them and offered a safe space. This isn’t complicated. It isn’t Atlas Shrugged. It’s basic human nature and social awareness. The left bought right into so many poisoned apples.

            I read through the comments. Literally someone below is even saying “Tech bros are all fascist sympathizers”. I like tech. Do I now say fuck the left because that’s me I like tech and therefore I am a fascist sympathizer? Like its unreal how the left labels things and then has no awareness why they have lost people who traditionally would have been leaning left. I don’t think there ever will be any self awareness on this either.

            I can’t imagine the mentality of walking around and saying everything and everyone is a piece of shit and then at the end of the day going “why is nobody supporting me”. People are not fascist or Nazis or whatever because they are helping Trump. They just hate all of you. A lot of the world does.

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            2 months ago

            Sure, but what? All the tech-savvy Americans are fascist sympathizers? No actually bright and plugged-in people in the tech world?

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                Okay so… everyone else is just… allowing it? Nobody going on the offense? Obviously Americans have no stomach for the violence that WILL be necessary- so what’s the excuse for the total lack of cyberwarfare?

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      In fact, it seems like all Info and Tech companies really hopped in line with Trump like fucking right away and I’m worried that not even that critical mass of 3-4% of the country is even able to protest, much less if that many people even want to

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        2 months ago

        Companies don’t have morals, if Trump disappeared tomorrow and was replaced with Bernie Sanders or whatever they would swap right back.

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      2 months ago

      I think I stopped using Facebook more than a decade ago. Never had Instagram, never had tiktok. Dropping Whatsapp is my struggle.

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    Did you all forget Insta is just Facebook for people under 65?

    Same parent company. Same priorities. The same people pushing AI gen antarctic ice wall and horse dewormer content on your memaw are deciding what you see too.

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      Meta is actively pursuing government contracts for uses of its supercomputer it’s putting online next year and it’s AI investments. They are becoming a defense contractor essentially. To acquire contracts during this regime, I’m sure they will give any backdoor and facial recognition assistance the Pentagon asks for.

      Being redundant to say this. People are actively posting pictures of themselves, their families, and their locations continuously and sending them to a government defense contractor. Posting their activities, hobbies, who they interact with, their food, et cetera.

      If news companies cared about people’s privacy, they would be broadcasting that on every network warning the population in my opinion. But that would piss off the U.S. government, and they don’t want that.

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    Something interesting to me is how the left takes these things on the chin. In these comments there are lots of comments like “yea well they all do this”. Compare that to the right during covid who would take screenshots and make sure everybody knew this was happening and not only that it was happening but how this would lead to dystopian authoritarian rule that threaten each and every person. I see this over and over again with each and every opportunity to show people how bad things are getting. But instead we snuff out these things ourselves and just move along.

    The left have no bite. They are all bark

    Can we make this character be the face of leftists from now on. Because its most of you.

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      Compare that to the right during covid who would take screenshots

      Be more specific. Do you mean how sites were taking down covid conspiracies that were getting people killed?

      Also, these sites aren’t free speech platforms. They’re advertisement platforms. They should be burnt to the ground.

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        Yes because the right mobilized and overwhelmed the sites with complaints. Add to this the mass cancelling that created panic in any celebrity made them all support each other. So now you had Joe Rogan bringing Zuckerberg on and really drilling home how problematic the left was and how they needed to stop it. The left went full toxic ex girlfriend. They were keying cars and lighting fires everywhere and never understood why nobody wanted to associate with them.

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          I never saw any cars getting keyed near me. I actually don’t have any political messaging on my truck because I’m worried about my mirrors getting smashed though. I think you’re living in a fantasy world created by your social media bubble.

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      The dichotomy between the left and right on these kind of issues are probably more economic than anything else.

      The people I know that freaked out about these sort of things were typically maga types. Lower income, lower education, and relied on social media for all kinds of news, human contact, and such.

      Meanwhile most liberals and conservatives that didn’t, lived more comfortably with higher career and education levels. This isn’t even really a left wing vs right wing kind of thing. Even the conservatives I knew that had higher education and career accomplishment freaked less out about Covid and social media “censorship” too because they could just do without.

      If you can live comfortably and it doesn’t affect your living, you tend to not rock the boat

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      Yes, clearly the handful of people with no power that advocate for Socialism or Communism are what is wrong with our country now.

      I think you are confused and are perhaps really wondering why centrists keep getting moved to the right.

      Both dominate political parties in the US are fascist in nature. You have the authoritarian fascists and you have the neolib fascists.

      Picking on the left is just a convenient scapegoat at this point. It is low hanging fruit and is pretty pointless.

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      They were getting whipped up and manipulated. A lot of that shit you are talking about was not organic. A lot of the shit you are talking about was pure paranoid mass delusion. A moral panic just like a classic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_panic. It’s a feature of the left that such things DON’T spread the same way.

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        Yes I agree with what you’re saying. But the left has to adapt or its finished. For all the talk of intelligence and how dumb the right are goes out the window. That’s because even with the money and the power, the people on the right had enough awareness to know when to lean into something even if they didn’t agree and when to pull back. The left do not. People keep saying they don’t understand how people can ignore Trump’s dumb bullshit. It’s because they don’t actually like Trump. The left doing understand this. Trump is giving them victory after victory. It’s not about Nazi or fascism or any of that. It’s about winning. The left have placed to many barriers to winning that something basic like Gavin Newsom mocking Trump is seen as amazing. That should have been the approach 10 years ago. Instead people focused too much on calling him a racist directly. You have to show not tell.

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    I got too far in the article to not hear about people possibly mass reporting the pic. I don’t want to hear people on social media and how they think it’s censorship, zuck sucking trump, whatever.

    Oh fuck, I read the entire thing and it never even mentions it. Maybe I need to finish my coffee but it seems like kids just don’t realize you can abuse automated systems, or if you can, that it’s not automatically a deliberate attempt to censor their ideas. It’s too hard to imagine with “but it’s meta! Zuck bent the knee!” screaming in your mind’s ear.

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      Even if it’s not malicious, it’s still a case of a company sitting on more cash reserves than most small countries, and just choosing not to do better on their moderation systems.

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    Legal immigrants who have something to offer and dont expect handouts can make a country great.

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      Correct.

      In addition, illegal immigrants that spend their dollars on the local economy, pay taxes without taking from the social security pots and do low wage jobs locals don’t want to do also make a country great.

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        If people receive low wages to do a job that no one wants to do, sorry but it isnt a great country.

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          Basically the entire food industry from farm to table is exploited for their value and profit. Hell I worked for a cafe for the last 5 years with shit base pay because the money hungry owners don’t give a flying fuck if I can afford an apartment much less food or medicine. lol I didn’t even get an acknowledgement when I burned my arm on the oven and it left lasting marks. We need unions across sectors and industries for workers right but thats a slim chance of happening