Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined
ITT people pretending this is a spite based move, when realistically it is probably cutting costs by reusing the same hardware they used for lightning ports just soldering on a USB-C port instead of a lightning one.
by reusing the same hardware
I’m sure their engineers are competent enough to repurpose she iPad Pro’s TB4 hardware.
Two factors. Do they still have lightning hardware sitting on shelves? Do they need to design to fit the iphone form factor? If the answer is yes to either of these, designing for TB this release cycle seems non-sensical when most people only use the cable to charge their phones.
The SoC lacks the hardware. Even the USB C iPads with A series chips operate at 2.0 speeds. They can only do 5Gbit in host mode, like with an external SSD. Plugged in to a computer they are 2.0.
I would imagine future chips will have the capability, once the Pro chips trickle down to the base models.
They are going to limit it to USB 2.0 speeds so in 3 or 4 years they can declare some new magical advancement and bump it up to full 3.0 speeds.
Apple purposefully limits things so that they have something to announce in the future. They aren’t dumb. They know the advancements in smartphones has been starting to slow down. So they meter out the advances over many years in incremental updates to give their customers a reason to upgrade.
You will hear something like this from every reviewer after an Apple event: “The changes were small, but taken together the new insert product name here might be well worth the upgrade price.”
This is not innovation that helps the market.
This is the reason capitalism will never maximize life for any but the few at the top.
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Why anyone would buy into this crap is beyond me.
they have created the culture of superiority. a posh product for our shallow acquaintances. it’s a great filter test actually.
It’s like people are ok with purposefully shooting themselves in the foot.
But my foot is fine with holes!
More holes= more aerodynamics
I’ve been an Android user all my life. Nexus, 2 one pluses, Samsung flip, and now on Pixel. I’ve also been pretty anti apple. I feel Android isn’t being able to hold it’s weight very well anymore. I find the experience a little meh and the below average battery doesn’t help. I’m not happy with the Pixel at all. Back in the day, I felt Apple was just overpriced and didn’t bring anything to the table and was almost exclusively garbage. Over the last one year I’ve been thinking more and more about giving it a try. I might switch into an iPhone 15 this year to see how it is. What doesn’t help is trying to pick TWS earbuds. All of them have some issue or the other. The new XM5s rely too heavily on foam tips (and Sony made a design where finding third party replacement is a pain), Beoplay Ex has average ANC which is important to me. From all my research, it’s looking like the Airpods might be the most well rounded in what I’m looking for, I just need to compromise on the sound quality. I might get the airpods even if I decide to stick to Android. I don’t know, man. I feel like there’s nothing I’m truly happy with in the market anymore (and I’m willing to spend, just give me something good) and I’m hoping Apple is the least worst of the lot so I might give it a try this year. Windows is the only thing I can never switch away from. Sorry for the rant, I’ve been struggling a bit to find good products but it’s like all these companies just hate us.
I am unfortunate in that I am the owner of a pixel by choice, and given an iPhone by my employer. I hate Apple’s “exceptionalism” and inconsistencies, that they kept the lighting connector alive for so long, that they removed the audio jack even though I have good BY headphones, their constant bait for their ecosystem/cloud storage and whatnot, now this arbitrary cap on USB capabilities (the list is seemingly endless). iOS is also such a frustrating user experience. The perspective of typing long form on an iPhone is off-putting enough to often compel me to pick up the laptop or the pixel given how stupid the keyboard completion and text entry UX are. Don’t get me wrong, I also think Android is a terrible OS, but at least it’s not forcing its shortcomings down our throats. For instance, I use nova launcher and sesame shortcuts, so that I just type what I want (contacts, common actions, app-specific shortcuts, settings, directions, …) and barely do any menu/app navigation at all. And that’s what I want: to order my phone about my immediate needs and get immediate feedback/answers. Apple UX is about prettifying a workflow which I don’t want in the first place, stripping out elements of UX which I might need, and leveraging a hard to reach zoo of applications which never interact/complement each other. They really managed to turn an incredibly powerful device into a dumb phone. Did I mention already how frustrating the user experience is?
Man, this sounds awful. I don’t even know what to do anymore. I think the most infuriating thing in the pixel for me is audio output. I’m always connected to some Bluetooth audio device. Switching between them(or deciding I want my output to be from the phone’s speakers) is insane. Only if some media is playing, can I switch otherwise I have to either go start playing something on Spotify or disconnect devices to be able to see the option of picking my output. The functionality is there but they’ve locked it behind some arbitrary logic. And coming from OnePlus I was blown away that suddenly I need 2 hours to completely charge my phone?! Wtf! 2 hours? For a phone that barely lasts the day on regular use!
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So, worse than a Galaxy S5. Got it.
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Unless it’s limited by hardware this will be a main cause for jailbreaking your iPhone.
What makes you say that? 90% of the users don’t even connect their iPhone to a pc anymore.
This is true. I’m a bit biased as that is what I would do. I’d say most users will not even notice. I think most of us here on lemmy are tech heads though and we would be the ones who do connect our phones to PC.
The latest report, which is both surprising and unsurprising at the same time, comes from a reliable leaker named Majin Bu, who Macrumors says has previously provided details on Apple’s upcoming cables.
Maybe I should start my own news company. You just string some words together about something and it doesn’t really have to make any sense or communicate any information. You say this happened, but at the same time maybe it didn’t happen, mention some people feel one way and other people feel a different way, throw in some meaningless speculation, someone else who is jumping to conclusions, maybe throw a pun in there somewhere, at least one person is skeptical about the thing, someone is concerned about how things will be different, and start selling space for advertisements.
I don’t think your criticism here is fair. I see what the article is conveying in this sentence: this is a decision that makes no sense (it probably costs more to artificially limit speeds in this way) but it is also not unexpected that Apple would make this kind of decision. I think it’s a well written turn of phrase.
I think you’re correct. I don’t think the author articulated that very clearly, but my reaction was an overreaction.
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I’m confused, is this a strategy meant to persuade people to keep using the lightning cable bullshit?
No, it’s a strategy to sell you an expensive cable. Apple always do this, create a problem and offer an expensive solution.
Merely a rumor. Apple is known to put multiple false rumors into their supplier chain to find leakers.
I’m going to wait for the upcoming formal announcement and specs.
Apple y u gotta be like dis
It really should be 3.0 speeds but its not any slower than the lightning cable so it’s pretty much the same. Just a universal charging port instead of an iPhone specific one.
“ the company will limit the transfer speeds on the base model iPhones to just 480Mb/s, the same as Lightning and USB 2.0.”
I don’t really care, I’m just glad it’ll be USB-C. The only thing I use a cable for on my phone these days is when I rent a car that doesn’t have wireless Carplay…and I forgot my wireless adapter.I mean, fuck Apple! I can’t believe this shit! Outrage! Gnashing of teeth! OMFG those bastards!
I haven’t used a cable to sync my iPhone for a long time. The speed does not matter to me unless they give us free tethering via cable. Ever since I got a box of wireless chargers to scatter around the house I don’t think I have used a cable.
Ok .thats apparently a controversial opinion but…why does that matter. Usb2.0 is still fairly fast connection ,i doubt it will impact anyone, unless someone dumps a lot of data on iphones for…some reason,honestly i am not sure in what scenraio you would move a lot of data very often from phone to pc or reversed. Its not a headphone jack scenario where they took a capability from a phone. You still can send data through cable.it will just take a minute instead of 10 s.
If you want to do local backups via iTunes or transfer multiple large video files then USB 2.0 speeds are horrendously slow. I do both of these fairly regularly.
Luckily I can transfer videos over wifi, which is much faster than USB 2.0 speed (but still slower than transferring over USB 3.1, which I can do with an android). Backing up my phone requires I leave it there nearly all day because the transfer speeds are so slow and doing wireless backups via iTunes on Windows is broken.
But why tho? They are going out of their way to make the data transfer slower just to artificially weaken the offering so the Pro looks better. It is anti-consumer and malicious.
Its probably just cheaper. Honestly i am not sure how many pepole there are that usb 3.0 speeds are even a consideration when buying a phone. I honestly dont know how it works on iphones but i know many androids dont have usb 3.0 also. In fact ive rarely even seen usb speeds mentioned anywhere . I know my phone has usb 3.0 but i have ridicolously overspeced asus rog phone( which has 2 USB c one 3.0 and one 2.0 port and that’s probably the only reason they even mentioned it )
