• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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    Well maybe they shouldn’t have done of the largest violations of copyright and intellectual property ever.

    Probably the largest single instance ever.

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      I feel like it can’t even be close. What would even compete? I know I’ve gone a little overboard with my external hard drive, but I don’t think even I’m to that level.

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    I am holding my breath! Will they walk free, or get a $10 million fine and then keep doing what every other thieving, embezzling, looting, polluting, swindling, corrupting, tax evading mega-corporation have been doing for a century!

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      Would be better if the fee were nominal, but that all their training data must never be used. Start them over from scratch and make it illegal to use anything that it knows now. Knee cap these frivolous little toys

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    An important note here, the judge has already ruled in this case that "using Plaintiffs’ works “to train specific LLMs [was] justified as a fair use” because “[t]he technology at issue was among the most transformative many of us will see in our lifetimes.” during the summary judgement order.

    The plaintiffs are not suing Anthropic for infringing on their copyright, the court has already ruled that it was so obvious that they could not succeed with that argument that it could be dismissed. Their only remaining claim is that Anthropic downloaded the books from piracy sites using bittorrent

    This isn’t about LLMs anymore, it’s a standard “You downloaded something on Bittorrent and made a company mad”-type case that has been going on since Napster.

    Also, the headline is incredibly misleading. It’s ascribing feelings to an entire industry based on a common legal filing that is not by itself noteworthy. Unless you really care about legal technicalities, you can stop here.


    The actual news, the new factual thing that happened, is that the Consumer Technology Association and the Computer and Communications Industry Association filed an Amicus Brief, in an appeal of an issue that Anthropic the court ruled against.

    This is pretty normal legal filing about legal technicalities. This isn’t really newsworthy outside of, maybe, some people in the legal profession who are bored.

    The issue was class certification.

    Three people sued Anthropic. Instead of just suing Anthropic on behalf of themselves, they moved to be certified as class. That is to say that they wanted to sue on behalf of a larger group of people, in this case a “Pirated Books Class” of authors whose books Anthropic downloaded from the book piracy websites.

    The judge ruled they can represent the class, Anthropic appealed the ruling. During this appeal an industry group filed an Amicus brief with arguments supporting Anthropic’s argument. This is not uncommon, The Onion famously filed an Amicus brief with the Supreme Court when they were about to rule on issues of parody. Like everything The Onion writes, it’s a good piece of satire: link

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    We just need to show that ChatGPT and alike can generate Nintendo based content and let it fight out between them

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      They will probably just merge into another mega-golem controlled by one of the seven people who own the planet.

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        Mario, voiced by Chris Pratt, will become the new Siri, then the new persona for all AI.

        In the future, all global affairs will be divided across the lines of Team Mario and Team Luigi. Then the final battle, then the end.

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      Nah, the only thing that could realistically happen is that copyright doesn’t apply to AI hosted by large corporations. In no way will this destroy copyright claims against individuals or small companies.

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    Ashley is a senior policy reporter for Ars Technica, dedicated to tracking social impacts of emerging policies and new technologies. She is a Chicago-based journalist with 20 years of experience.

    And yet, despite 20 years of experience, the only side Ashley presents is the technologists’ side.

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    I myself don’t allow my data to be used for AI, so is anyone did, they do owe me a boatload of gold coins. That’s just my price. Great tech though.

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    Would really love to see IP law get taken down a notch out of this.

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    threatens to “financially ruin” the entire AI industry

    No. Just the LLM industry and AI slop image and video generation industries. All of the legitimate uses of AI (drug discovery, finding solar panel improvements, self driving vehicles, etc) are all completely immune from this lawsuit, because they’re not dependent on stealing other people’s work.

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    As Anthropic argued, it now “faces hundreds of billions of dollars in potential damages liability at trial in four months” based on a class certification rushed at “warp speed” that involves “up to seven million potential claimants, whose works span a century of publishing history,” each possibly triggering a $150,000 fine.

    So you knew what stealing the copyrighted works could result in, and your defense is that you stole too much? That’s not how that works.

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      Actually that usually is how it works. Unfortunately.

      *Too big to fail" was probably made up by the big ones.