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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks

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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks

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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
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Newag, maker of Polish trains, is suing ethical hackers who exposed its anti-repair software, threatening independent repair and consumer rights.
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  • Terevos@lemmy.world
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    Every potential buyer of trains should ban this company from new sales.

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      Yeah. I’m not buying another train from them ever again

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        Good for you! I’m going to boycott them, too.

      • iglou@programming.dev
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        Same. My personal Home <-> Work line will never see a Newag train.

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    For what? Being decent human beings?

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    I keep a small list titled “illegal heroes”, and these hackers are on that list. It’s bullshit that they’re being hounded like this.

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    Newag [train maker] claims that the Dragon Sector [whitehat hacker] team endangered passengers’ safety by modifying the software without proper experience. But Newag then turns right around and claims that Dragon Sector did not modify the software at all. They point out that EU law only allows reverse engineering of software in order to fix bugs. And if Dragon Sector did not actually modify the software, it cannot have fixed any bugs, in which case their reverse-engineering must be illegal.

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      So if they just say they were gonna get to the bug fixing part but haven’t yet they’re in the clear. Boom, another decisive victory for the Dragon Sector.

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        Train company response: it’s a feature, not a bug, so you’re still guilty

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    I am looking forward to their next update:

    • https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-12142-breaking_drm_in_polish_trains
    • https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-we-ve-not-been-trained-for-this-life-after-the-newag-drm-disclosure
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    Where legal fund

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      CCC was collecting some money for them last year, not sure if this is still active https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist-vollig-entgleist

      Edit: looks like they were past the goal they had then but if this goes on maybe 30k € won’t be enough, hopefully someone sets something new up

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