• Allemaniac@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    “activist” even trying to discredit foreign federal bureaus by framing them as politically motivated lmao what a bunch of fucking crooks in the US admin.

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    But Twitter censors all kinds of posts? There is no free speech on Twitter. Just try posting the word cisgendered and see what happens.

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    It is not censorship. This is not a government telling you what to publish or not. This is just finding out how a company is abusing its product to influence politics.

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    Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.

    That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:

    • Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
    • Retaliates against left-leaning press.
    • Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
    • Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
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      That because they don’t want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.

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      I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.

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      EU is not much better.
      You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
      And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
      Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
      Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.

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    Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.

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      His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn’t covered by the First Amendment.

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        Despite being an “entertainment” show, satirical media is still media, and covered by the First. These shows still rely on that protection against lawsuits, and have been exhonerated with the same defence, Cobert in particular. If you could prove government interference in this case, I’d say there was a pretty good basis for a court case based on freedom of the press, which is the corollary of free speech.

  • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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    From my experience living in the US, the country is not a good reference point for any discussions around the nature of free speech.

    Free speech polemics in the US largely have a demonstrative role with individuals parroting random copytext that they’ve heard before in an attempt to position themselves as being special and independent.

    In a way, the whole thing is very entertaining.

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      Every state or social group has its shibboleths - the American one is just to performatively pretend they don’t have any.

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      There is that.

      American democrats, though, irritated me more until I’ve started noticing Republicans. They have that “parties switched in 1960s” myth (only parties’ ideas on race switched, while the main ideology of the democratic party is not too different from “progressives” of 1890s, those guys who advocated for prophylactic lynchings ; and it’s the same about Republicans, whose “anti-racist” ideas were just as Christian fundamentalism based as their today’s projects), and also the “popular party” myth (while even in appearances being something to the top of which only people born with a silver spoon in mouth can get).

      At the same time the “free speech” stuff over there seems to mostly be about “they in their totalitarian countries (or pockets of society dominated by the other party) are lied by their propaganda media, and we here are free and are told the truth”.

      Not sure it’s entertaining, it looks depressing. But I haven’t lived in the US.

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    By condemning this, the “US” is shooting itself in the foot.

    Ever since Twitter owner used Twitter to say Canada “wasn’t a real country”, no Canadian should be using Twitter. That wasn’t just bias, it was an “in your face and screw you” kind of bias.

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    As part of a criminal investigation, an activist American payment network is requesting to stop selling video games that they seem inappropriate and has basically treated itch.io, Steam, etc. as an “organized crime group.” Democratic governments should allow all games to be played, not silence things they dislike. The United States will defend the free prudence of all Americans against acts of foreign fun.

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    Just block it in Europe already. Or give Musk daily-increasing fines so he has it turned off in the EU.

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      Just block it in Europe already.

      The Brazil Government did this for a week and immediately extracted big concessions from Elon. Really curious to see the EU so reluctant to employ a tried-and-true tactic… assuming you believe these governments are adversarial to American plutocrats.

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    Requesting information isn’t limiting free speech is it? Now if that algorithm shows it is indeed limiting or promoting people’s speech in a non-equal manner, that would be limiting people’s free speech would it not?

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      Dont try facts on the American government and 40% of its population. They dont work like that.

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    Just call it Twitter. He’s been trying to make “fetch” happen since the 90s. We get it, rich boy, you have a single-character .com domain. I’m still sending money over PayPal, because that’s what it’s fucking called.