• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    27 days ago

    Honestly, a physical password book isn’t a bad idea.

    Not accessible via the internet, and in most cases if someone has physical access to your system you’re done for anyway.

    The main weakness it has is from a nosey flatmate, spouse, or child in the house.

    • brot@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      27 days ago

      Yeah, my in-laws have such a book and it honestly is great. They live in their own flat where nobody can access the book without breaking in. They do not save their passwords in their browser, so anyone hacking into their PC can’t grab them. If they want to login into an account, they take out their book, put in the user name and unique password and that’s it. Quite the good method and I really do not see many problems there.

    • tarknassus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      27 days ago

      “People can no longer remember passwords good enough to reliably defend against dictionary attacks, and are much more secure if they choose a password too complicated to remember and then write it down.

      We’re all good at securing small pieces of paper. I recommend that people write their valuable passwords down on a small piece of paper, and keep it with their other valuable small pieces of paper: in their wallet.

      Obscure it somehow if you want added security: write “bank” instead of the URL of your bank, transpose some of the characters, leave off your userid. This will give you a little bit of time if you lose your wallet and have to change your passwords. But even if you don’t do any of this, writing down your impossible-to-memorize password is more secure than making your password easy to memorize.”

      Bruce Schneier - 2005.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      27 days ago

      The main weakness it has is from a nosey flatmate, spouse, or child in the house.

      I disagree. Using this book will always lead to shorter passwords that are easier to type. That’s the main weakness imo.

      Or in other words: it really depends what the user fills it with. It should be accompanied by a little machine that spits out random passwords, I’m thinking a rubics-cube-shaped bling pendant at the end of the bookmark band.

      • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        27 days ago

        Not at all. It will lead to easier to type passwords, likely. But that doesn’t mean shorter. This could easily be filled with passwords that are four words long with special characters interspersed.

        • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          26 days ago

          Which you then have to type out every time. Laziness wins: they will be shorter.

          The assumption is that the product is for non-savvy users. They might not even understand what you wrote up there.

          Autocorrect can help here, but dictionary words are easily brute-forced guessed. And - more importantly - that hypothetical user would have to come up with that idea in the first place. But people who come up with such ideas usually already use password managers anyhow.

          • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            27 days ago

            Several dictionary words in series cannot be “easily brute forced.”

            You’re out of you’re depth and saying stupid things.