Manufacturers are slowly starting to listen to what car journalists and owners have been complaining about for almost a decade: Cramming all the car’s functions into a touchscreen is an inferior solution to having dedicated physical controls for key tasks.

Among the manufacturers known to be switching back to buttons is Volkswagen, whose latest vehicles have gone touch-control-crazy with functions either buried inside a touchscreen menu or relocated to an annoying haptic feedback panel.

We’ve known for a while that Volkswagen was considering putting back some buttons in its cars, but the manufacturer never officially acknowledged this. Now VW’s design boss, Andreas Mindt, has admitted to Autocar that this approach was a mistake and that the automaker is backtracking on this trend.

“From the ID.2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions—the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light—below the screen,” Mindt told Autocar. He added, “They will be in every car that we make from now on. We will never, ever make this mistake anymore. On the steering wheel, we will have physical buttons. No guessing anymore. There’s feedback, it’s real, and people love this. Honestly, it’s a car. It’s not a phone.”

    • @fubarx@lemmy.world
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      1118 days ago

      I used to work with big companies collecting IoT data. 90% were collecting telemetry without knowing why. Or having business goals they could easily achieve in other ways, without hoovering everything and violating our privacy.

      The rest were doing it so they could sell it to data brokers and make money.

      None of them were trying to push privacy as a competitive advantage.

      • @myplacedk@lemmy.world
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        518 days ago

        None of them were trying to push privacy as a competitive advantage.

        This is why I don’t have a new car. I’m hoping I get one where I have access to my own data (in eg. Home Assistant), and the manufacturer doesn’t.

    • @ripcord@lemmy.world
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      418 days ago

      It’s so weird how not a single person here can just say “cool, this is good”.

      Sometimes things can just be good.

      • @myplacedk@lemmy.world
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        318 days ago

        Yes, but this is not one of those times.

        Imagine someone poops on your doorstep, and then removes half of it.

        You can say it’s good that they removed some of it, but that’s probably not the point you would want to make.

  • DreamButt
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    1318 days ago

    Whoever thought touchscreens were a good idea for a console needs to be shot

    • snooggums
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      618 days ago

      They are grat for things that benwfit from havibg flexible touch anywhere interaction like maps.

      They suck for anything you want to touch without looking away from the road, like temp controls.

      Honda still including buttons and knobs for climate controls was a huge factor for my last purchase. A few brands were instantly rejected because they had climate controls in the touch screen and I had already hated that experience from rentals and my in law’s cars.

  • @SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
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    618 days ago

    Touch screens in cars has always been a fuckin’ stupid idea, and I say that with the sincerest hope that nobody died because they had to look at the touchscreen to know where to tap to change the radio station because commercials came on

  • @MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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    118 days ago

    And fix the spring steering thingy maybe. Feels like you’re driving a boat, which is dangerous, because you underestimate speed.

  • @bitchkat@lemmy.world
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    -318 days ago

    This is going to be unpopular but I quite like the buttonless UI in my car (6 year old swasticar). I recently bought a van and it’s so distracting.

    Buttons are all over the place and I have two screens to monitor. Honestly, I spend more time looking at the controls in the van ghsn the car.

    I’m getting rid of it soon and I’m not looking forward to that part.

    • Skeezix
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      217 days ago

      They cant just be buttons. They have to be well thought out buttons. My old toyota had 3 big round knobs for the heater controls. Could adjust it without even looking. My new Toyota has heater control buttons but they’re tiny and arrayed in a row like a tiny piano. There is no space between each button and they all have the identical tactile feel. Have to take my eyes off the road for a few seconds just to find what I need.

  • @DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world
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    218 days ago

    Thank you!

    (Though, to be fair, I’m not sure how much they deserve to be thanked for undoing a change that should never have been made in the first place.)

    • @meeeeetch@lemmy.world
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      018 days ago

      Ehh, they were promised that full self driving was only a few years away. If that had been the case, touchscreens would be perfectly fine. But a decade of “only two more years, we swear” later, it’s time for the manufacturers to get back to work on AM instead of FM.

      • @DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world
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        118 days ago

        Wouldn’t it have been better for them to wait until cars were fully self-driving? I suspect they were just trend-chasing.