• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    The product stays the same if we bring down their revenue to 1 billion, they aren’t close to bankruptcy. If they took 0.5 %, Gaben would still be able to afford a yatch or two, just not 6.

    Having a competitors product on your platform doesn’t have anything to do with collusion. They are rivals but they don’t actually compete or strive to give their customers any kind of competitive prices.

    And yes, you are defending a billionaire.

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      The product stays the same if we bring down their revenue to 1 billion, they aren’t close to bankruptcy. If they took 0.5 %

      So? I don’t care if they’re forced to lower his salary. You said nothing differentiates Steam enough and I’m saying it does so by being good.

      They are rivals but they don’t actually compete or strive to give their customers any kind of competitive prices.

      The majority of customers on all storefronts are fine with the pricing as-is. Steam’s competitive advantage comes from being the best storefront with an amazing library and . That’s why it’s the top dog

      And yes, you are defending a billionaire.

      I’m clearly not. I’m defending the service itself

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        The majority of customers on all storefronts are fine with the pricing as-is. Steam’s competitive advantage comes from being the best storefront with an amazing library and . That’s why it’s the top dog

        Pricing has nothing to do with Steam dude…. that’s publisher/developer controlled. And they have a quite a lot of stink to say about the cut they take for nothing. They need to curate and moderate all their own store page, Steam does what and takes 30%?

        It’s no wonder some take epics deals, the cut they take is 12%, that’s significant. And if epic can operate by taking that much with their employee count, clearly valve could be doing a far better job of what they do, but they do what again…? Line Gabe’s pocket and what else?

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      If they took 0.5 %,

      Took from what? Is this about the revenue share again? Stop listening to that idiot Timmy.

      We know that many others take the same %% so I could say even if they took 50% they wouldn’t deliver a product as good as Steam.

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        To be clear, I’m not listening to anyone. I think the government should step in and force a maximum of 5% on all stores, or something similar.

        The fact that they all take the same percentage is exactly the reason why I’m saying there’s collusion going on.

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          Government of which country or countries? You wouldn’t think they would stay in the US if what you said will happen, would you?

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          I’m sure you came up with that 5% number after careful research and didn’t just pull some low round number out of your ass.

          /s

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            I did say something similar, it’s clearly just to give an idea.

            I’m basing it on the fact that it would still be insanely profitable with such a percentage, personally I would rather see it much lower.

            An utterly meaningless challenge just to defend daddy Gaben. Why don’t you talk about my actual points instead of spitting out useless dribble. Stop defending billionaires.

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        We know that many others take the same %% so I could say even if they took 50% they wouldn’t deliver a product as good as Steam.

        Epics 12% and they operate with how many more employees?

        So what is valve doing with all this extra money than on Gabe?

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          Epics are posers at this point, or one could say a fake platform. Remove Fortnite from them and it will shut down immediately, especially at 12%.

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            You realize the others only charge that much since steam set the standard… yeah? All of them can charge less so what’s your point here? You clearly lied in your original comment, and are now making up points to defend it.

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              You realize the others only charge that much since steam set the standard… yeah?

              I’ll wait for you to prove this.

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                Prove that they are profitable at 30% if they couldn’t go lower at least one or two would be near the red every single year, yet it’s climbing profits….?

                But you know there is no physical proof of this, yet you claim it? I’m sorry you got to do a little critical thinking on your own. Most can obviously take atleast down to 25% if not significantly more and still be positive.

                You made the initial claim, so it’s up to you to prove it’s unprofitable to be less than 30%, balls in your court if you actually want to discuss this.

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                  No, prove that what you said is correct. It’s historical data in your case, about how Steam started the 30% trend, allegedly.

                  My claim was that 30% was a standard before Steam, not at all about how much less profitable it would be for them if it was different.

                  Also putting the blame on Steam for others allegedly following its model is not logical if your point is about how obvious it always was that 30% is excessive.

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                    Are any of those other store fronts newer than steam?

                    If not, why would they have any need or business sense to charge less?

                    You’re moving goal posts and refusing to accept responsibility for your original claims. That’s not discussing in good faith.