I mean, they were both for completely different purposes with mission profiles that aren’t even slightly comparable. I think they were both successes in their own ways.
You’re right, they are successful in different ways. Starship was successful in a 2024 type of way, while Boeing was successful in a late 60’s/1970’s sort of way.
Normally I wouldn’t compare them because you’re right, they’re very different in terms of mission, but they just happened to launch within a day of one another. Starliner still seems like an expensive POS when compared to falcon and dragon.
Totally agreed, Starliner has had an expensive disaster of a project timeline. But, it finally brought astronauts to the ISS, today’s mission was a success! Likewise, Starship made it through reentry mostly intact this time! It’s an exciting day for spaceflight!
Let’s remember that the first falcon launch didn’t get to the desired orbit because of a fuel leak. The first starship launch had a giant number of problems.
Years long delays and development hell for the Starliner; finally launches with significant but manageable propellant leaks. Meanwhile Starship is making cutting edge leaps and bounds in only its fourth test flight. Starship looks nearly ready to launch payloads.
Imo the contrast between Starship and SLS are even starker, but in the opposite direction. I hope I’m wrong (I want as much in space as possible) but SpaceX seems to be running pretty rough and roudy for manned missions rn. They’re popping off these experimental rockets like toys with very short turnaround. But to be fair they did the same with Falcon-IX and it’s a success now so again I could be wrong.
The alternative being you sit down, put in the time, and resources and have a 100% success rate like SLS. Ofc the catch being it costs like 10x but NASA doesn’t have the luxury of televisied launch failures. I’m just REALLY concerned something fails with humans to the moon in it and poof that’s that for a another 5 decades. There’s a reason extremely valuable launches like human life and the JWST are done on tested platforms like Soyuz and Aireon VI.
That being said yeah the Boeing craft looks even worse rn. I’m surprised they let it even dock with all the issues.
The contrast of this launch versus the starship launch is pretty stark
I mean, they were both for completely different purposes with mission profiles that aren’t even slightly comparable. I think they were both successes in their own ways.
You’re right, they are successful in different ways. Starship was successful in a 2024 type of way, while Boeing was successful in a late 60’s/1970’s sort of way.
I’m just saying they both did what they set out to do. They both clearly have their own issues to deal with still, but it was a good day!
“We cut corners and nothing bad happened yet, so let’s carry on” is how a bunch of planes crashed, so let’s not give Boeing a full pass here.
Normally I wouldn’t compare them because you’re right, they’re very different in terms of mission, but they just happened to launch within a day of one another. Starliner still seems like an expensive POS when compared to falcon and dragon.
Totally agreed, Starliner has had an expensive disaster of a project timeline. But, it finally brought astronauts to the ISS, today’s mission was a success! Likewise, Starship made it through reentry mostly intact this time! It’s an exciting day for spaceflight!
Let’s remember that the first falcon launch didn’t get to the desired orbit because of a fuel leak. The first starship launch had a giant number of problems.
Please explain.
Years long delays and development hell for the Starliner; finally launches with significant but manageable propellant leaks. Meanwhile Starship is making cutting edge leaps and bounds in only its fourth test flight. Starship looks nearly ready to launch payloads.
To be fair though, since we’re comparing them, Starship is also not exactly on schedule and it’s starting to result in canceled missions.
When has anything space ever been on schedule? SpaceX may be behind, but considering what they’re trying to do with Starship, it’s hardly unexpected.
Imo the contrast between Starship and SLS are even starker, but in the opposite direction. I hope I’m wrong (I want as much in space as possible) but SpaceX seems to be running pretty rough and roudy for manned missions rn. They’re popping off these experimental rockets like toys with very short turnaround. But to be fair they did the same with Falcon-IX and it’s a success now so again I could be wrong.
The alternative being you sit down, put in the time, and resources and have a 100% success rate like SLS. Ofc the catch being it costs like 10x but NASA doesn’t have the luxury of televisied launch failures. I’m just REALLY concerned something fails with humans to the moon in it and poof that’s that for a another 5 decades. There’s a reason extremely valuable launches like human life and the JWST are done on tested platforms like Soyuz and Aireon VI.
That being said yeah the Boeing craft looks even worse rn. I’m surprised they let it even dock with all the issues.
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