TikTok is taking the US government to court.

  • istanbullu@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Every negative thing about Tiktok is also true about Instagram and Twitter.

    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world
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      Except the part about the authoritarian regime, the US has many problems but it’s still a democracy.

      Edit: I’m glad you downvote me because you never had to learn what living in a dictatorship is like, I didn’t, but my parents generation still did and I can tell you it looks nothing like the US of today. Women were only allowed to be housewives, groups of more than 2 people couldn’t talk openly in the street because that can lead to dangerous ideas spreading out, you would have to be careful what you said even at home because your neighbour could be listening to sell you out, all pieces of art and media would go through an government office to get censored, and so on, so yes, I stand with what I said, the US is a free democratic country even if you have been spoiled enough to think it is not.

      • kava@lemmy.world
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        Hey I was born in a country with a military dictatorship and my parents grew up under it.

        That’s exactly why I believe in freedom and liberty. Freedom of expression, freedom of religion, freedom of association. We need to uphold these principles so that the US doesn’t slowly slip into authoritarianism like most democracies tend to do over the long term.

        That’s exactly why I oppose this TikTok ban with every fiber of my being. If a citizen wants to communicate on a Chinese platform, he has every right to do so under our laws. He can make the executive decision for himself about the potential risks or benefits.

        That’s what it means to live in a free society. You are advocating for authoritarianism while you rail against authoritarianism. Reminds me of 1984. War is peace, right?

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          He can make the executive decision for himself about the potential risks or benefits

          But should he? Is any one by themselves really capable? Note that I don’t really know what to think myself, purely asking.

      • demonsword@lemmy.world
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        the US has many problems but it’s still a democracy

        Given the choice between hot shit and cold shit still ends with you being covered in shit. Heads or tails between two very similar parties hardly counts as a true democracy.

      • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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        Not everything that’s not a dictatorship is a democracy. You’re using a strawman to argue your point.

        A democracy stops when there is a severe imbalance in influence on legislation between voters and lobbyists / corporations / or voters depending on income / colour of skin.

        There’s also a quasi oligarchy with freedom of speech, that’s about where western Europe is at. In the US, by now, a large part of the population has been deprived of basic human rights, as shown in unpunished police brutality and murders, and vigilante killings of people for their beliefs, opinions or identity.

        Neither still qualifies for democracy. We would have to unite about two thirds of the voters behind a new party to even hope to change anything that matters (hello climate change), and that’s assuming that a hypothetical party that would actually act in the interest of restoring democratic mechanisms would be persecuted or otherwise hindered by authorities.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        And What does that have to do with anything? We aren’t dealing with China, we’re dealing with a corporation.