cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/69659577
Protonmail.uservoice.com is supposedly “The Voice of the Proton Community”. Well last week I was tracking a post that was rising rapidly to the top-most voted in the “general ideas” category. And this morning when I went to check if it was at the top yet, it’s just gone without a trace. No sign that it was ever there.
I think this tells us all we need to know about proton unfortunately.
Yup. I’m in the renovation month. I guess I’ll move to monthly payments for an extra month while i sort the addresses out, and then fully cancel.
Same here. Everything’s moved except for addresses I’ll give a month or two I might have forgotten and VPN. What services did you go with?
I’m testing Tuta, but I’m not loving their app so far. I might just go mailbox.org. Since it uses standard IMAP/POP etc, you can use any client you like instead. Not like I’m really gaining a lot by cyphering my email when they can easily read it from any other unencrypted destination the moment its sent or received.
mailbox.org was at the top of my list but ended up pulling the trigger on Thundermail. Time will tell if I made the right call lol
I started fiddling with zohomail.
I don’t know much about the service, but it’s free and not Google/Yahoo.
Though at this point I’d take Yahoo over Gmail
Haven’t heard of that one. Gonna look into it, having alternatives is always good
I’m currently in the same process. Almost half of my accounts already moved from their mail addresses. This time I was using my own domain for all of them, to make further switches way easier.
I went for:
-TuTa (for mail + calendar)
-KeePassDX (with Syncthing) for password manager
-Filen.io for cloud storage (already had something there)
-iVPN for VPN (not switched yet), alternative would be TORvpn which is still in beta though (Mullvad is out, since their CEO supports a fascist party in Sweden)
I also went custom domains, KeePassXC/DX, and Filen. For mail I’m using Thundermail (been reading Tuta might be going the same route as Proton), calendar I’m gonna try and self host with Nextcloud and Thundermail/Fossify calendar. Still looking for a VPN. I need port forwarding, and it looks like the only comparable option is AirVPN, but it’s based in Italy. I’ve learned since the US went fascist and I stopped supporting American to just do my best and not let perfect be the enemy of good. I can accept having to stay with just Proton VPN for the time being. Using one service is better than seven.
The post they removed https://web.archive.org/web/20261031004517/https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/945460-general-ideas/suggestions/51867423-andy-yen-steps-aside
Edit: Wayback seems to be crapping its lederhosen so I took a screengrab of the post and posted it below.
There is sort of a new one up calling them out. We ll see how long it stays up. https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/945460-general-ideas/suggestions/51894582-andy-should-step-down

Can’t vote, it’s been closed.
I’m getting “This snapshot cannot be displayed due to an internal error.”. Removed this too?
Hmmm… just got that too, but reloaded a few times and it showed up again. I guess the archive is having some issues, but I took a snap of the comment when it came back up

It had over 2.500 votes last I checed.
Supposedly it hit over 3000 but I can’t find a pic of it at that point.
If they want to win back trust, deleting things like this really is not the way.
Yup, that bothers me almost more than stuffing AI into everything. How are you supposed to trust a company that is purposely hiding things from you.
Much appreciated, cos i’m still getting the same error. Might be a geo block or something
Could be. All nine of that page’s snapshots on Wayback Machine return with that error.
Fuck. my plan renews in a month, I guess I’m going to start looking elsewhere.
I replied to a survey thing of proton’s a few weeks ago, and as I put it I’m happy to pay people for a good service. I will not pay a computer for slop.
I’ve only got 35 pages of emails in my inbox to delete before I’ve cleared out my Proton mailbox. I already cancelled my subscription and cleared out my Proton Drive. Next thing will be to change my email from my SimpleLogin alias, since they’re “Powered by Proton”.
Thankfully I don’t have a lot of stuff to move, but it still pisses me off… been using them since 2019 but I refuse to pay for some AI coded shit just because of some delusional asshole that doesn’t want to pay actual people for a decent product.
Can you switch to monthly so you have a bit more time to move?
I just downgraded to the free plan and under feedback I left this
I, like many others will not pay for Ai slop. I am happy to pay PEOPLE for (what was) a good service. I will not pay a fucking computer for sloppy code just because “Andy” is a lazy asshole that wants more money without having to pay his people for their hard work and experience. If he decides to fuck off with his AI girlfriend and go live in a data center (preferably one within striking distance of Ukraine), I’ll consider returning as a paying customer. This issue was brought up repeatedly in the forums only to be hidden and deleted, which proves to me that your CEO doesn’t care about his employees or customers or even having a good product, only about money. Maybe we are losers Andy, but at least we’re not you.
I might have to, just to buy myself some time.
Mine renews December as well. I panicked about the time crunch so I swapped to monthly and planned to go for a few months to transfer everything over. I’m using the credit I have for December and probably gonna roll the dice on any emails associated with Proton that I missed and cancel. Already moved everything out except VPN. Fuck 'em.
Ih come on… Not only is this a jerk move, the Streisand Effect has been know for decades…
Where can I find a tldr of what’s going on with the CEO? I’ve only read bits and pieces and feel that I’m missing, the big picture.
Privatization is a bitch
I left for Tuta when he backed the current administration, however ended up back with them just because the UX wasn’t there for me. I hope I can find something privacy respecting and polished in the near future
what! damnit, I gotta change all my accounts now …
I pay a VPN sub to proton, can someone explain what was discussed in the removed post and why?










