Keeping Europe small and fragmented, so it is an easier target for the larger powers to play with.
Somehow that’s the single common thing all of these politicians all over Europe that like to call themselves ‘patriotic’ want to do.
Be it Le Pen in France, the AfD in Germany, …, if all of these really were so great for us Europeans, how come they are so staunchly supported by our global adversaries in Moscow and Mar-a-Lago?
I met Thiel once briefly about a decade ago. The guy was a total cunt. I interacted with him for all of 10 seconds and he pissed me off to the point I wanted to punch him in the face… I truly regret not doing it.
Correct and they all are conservative and right leaning. Even far right, similar to Nazis, no wonder they Support Naziism, so Russian current regime in the Kreml. Nothing too hard to understand.
Correct and they all are conservative and right leaning.
Tbf, the romanticised view towards Moscow / Beijing is something also found regularly on the left side of the spectrum. The passed on opposition towards Washington and “the Western World” is so engrained that they don’t realise that the guy in Washington and the guy in Moscow meanwhile are happily holding hands, while Beijing (the “Moscow surrogate” after 1991) has left the spheres of socialism long ago and is becoming more capitalist and power-hungry by the minute.
None of these are our friends, none of these have our interest in mind, none of these want a striving, strong and independent Europe. Yet, a remarkably high portion of people here on the continent (on either side of the political spectrum) can only see us as the small, dependent fosterling of a “large power” and their whole debate is limited to whether that supervisor should sit west or east of us.
also found regularly on the left side of the spectrum.
Like lunatics that in my point of view already fell of from what left should mean, or my understanding and position is the real middle which nowadays is already put into far left?
Left is not anti-west, whatever “west” should mean as a unit (that actually doesn’t exist).
I agree with your sentiment, especially the second paragraph.
It’s also not just left or right and you have to decide. We already have a lot of good rules written down and ratified by the majority of humanity and do not need to argue about basic human rights anymore. if you break them, that’s bad and wrong, no matter where you stand and as what you call yourself.
The best options we have so far is individual freedom restricted by sane rules, so law and democracy with a closely regulated free market. Nowadays infrastructure might be handled more like in a planned economy, so that part can become more “left” imho.
Free elections would also be more sane and clear, if not a strong minority would be able to pay a lot to steer public opinion and media, as their expenditure for it makes sure they can get even more and not pay their fair share.
Still i understand why it is so easy to say and like other weak groups/minorities are the cause for the regular persons hardships.
Keeping Europe small and fragmented, so it is an easier target for the larger powers to play with. Somehow that’s the single common thing all of these politicians all over Europe that like to call themselves ‘patriotic’ want to do.
Be it Le Pen in France, the AfD in Germany, …, if all of these really were so great for us Europeans, how come they are so staunchly supported by our global adversaries in Moscow and Mar-a-Lago?
Musk and Thiel are literally funding all of this. If one country had the balls to do what we are all thinking, it could help the whole world
I met Thiel once briefly about a decade ago. The guy was a total cunt. I interacted with him for all of 10 seconds and he pissed me off to the point I wanted to punch him in the face… I truly regret not doing it.
Superpowers love smaller countries’ nationalism.
Why yes, please do isolate yourself from your allies while shouting about national pride. How did you know I was hungry for another vassal state?
Correct and they all are conservative and right leaning. Even far right, similar to Nazis, no wonder they Support Naziism, so Russian current regime in the Kreml. Nothing too hard to understand.
Tbf, the romanticised view towards Moscow / Beijing is something also found regularly on the left side of the spectrum. The passed on opposition towards Washington and “the Western World” is so engrained that they don’t realise that the guy in Washington and the guy in Moscow meanwhile are happily holding hands, while Beijing (the “Moscow surrogate” after 1991) has left the spheres of socialism long ago and is becoming more capitalist and power-hungry by the minute.
None of these are our friends, none of these have our interest in mind, none of these want a striving, strong and independent Europe. Yet, a remarkably high portion of people here on the continent (on either side of the political spectrum) can only see us as the small, dependent fosterling of a “large power” and their whole debate is limited to whether that supervisor should sit west or east of us.
Like lunatics that in my point of view already fell of from what left should mean, or my understanding and position is the real middle which nowadays is already put into far left? Left is not anti-west, whatever “west” should mean as a unit (that actually doesn’t exist).
I agree with your sentiment, especially the second paragraph. It’s also not just left or right and you have to decide. We already have a lot of good rules written down and ratified by the majority of humanity and do not need to argue about basic human rights anymore. if you break them, that’s bad and wrong, no matter where you stand and as what you call yourself. The best options we have so far is individual freedom restricted by sane rules, so law and democracy with a closely regulated free market. Nowadays infrastructure might be handled more like in a planned economy, so that part can become more “left” imho. Free elections would also be more sane and clear, if not a strong minority would be able to pay a lot to steer public opinion and media, as their expenditure for it makes sure they can get even more and not pay their fair share.
Still i understand why it is so easy to say and like other weak groups/minorities are the cause for the regular persons hardships.