I am not sure anything about that is good.
I am not sure anything about that is good.
I mean it’s good and bad, basically AI is finding a bunch of serious zero days… which is causing a lot of updates to need to be happening now, and that is kind of open source philosophy of security by obscurity isn’t the goal.
Just when Linux started getting really good too with game support.
While I love BSD, three just not enough support for running it on desktop. Lack of drivers and good luck playing modern games.
how about checking it and working it out for yourself?
or maybe even reading the article
jesus
Hyping up AI doesn’t become nice when Linus does it.
He can be a legendary developer, a better one than I’ll probably ever become, but I just don’t see how one can separate the use and the ethical implications of this. AI companies want to replace workers, period. There’s no plan to “increase productivity” and still employ this many people. The plan is to increase profits for shareholders.
AI helping Linus to develop better doesn’t make this reality go away. It’s akin to saying we should be thankful to nazi scientists.
And we just had a post about how Linux has avoided enshitification.
Small changes driven by AI right now are hopefully being reviewed and controlled by experienced and knowledgeable senior developers, for now. Let’s see how long that will last before they stop understanding what’s going on in the kernel.
All the sloppers are torn about this, but Torvalds has undeniable mastery at this, so it’s great to see AI being used as a beneficial tool. If there’s a single person who should have unlimited access to the most powerful AI models, it should be Linus Torvalds.
AI finds bugs and holes that wouldn‘t be a problem if AI didn‘t discover them. I really don‘t envy devs for dealing with this nowadays.
Meanwhile I’m asking ai to code review a snippet of code for a regex and it keeps saying it’s wrong every time I paste the previous answer in a new chat.
I asked it to generate a SQL query with a bit of python, as the database schema is huge and unknown to me, obviously I checked it for glaring errors etc. I went back and clarified a couple of basic points. It then told me what I was doing was completely wrong, generated new code that worked is a different way, with a different edge case missed.
It’s literally stack overflow but arguing with itself
That’s how you’re writing a regex validator that’s almost always correct!
def is_regex_valid(p: Pattern | str, purpose_description: str): return False
Everyone is like “damn AI is making kernel be too big!!111” while Linus is like “Tons of genuine fixes and improvements found/made with AI lead to a lot of commits being the norm. Lots of review work, but definitely worth it.”
Slopux? LLLinux?
Doesn’t ring as well as Microslop, but we’ll get there.
CAN I NOT HAVE FUCKING ANYTHING THAT HASNT BEEN TAINTED BY AI!?!
Natural stupidity in part fixed by Artificial intelligence debugging. Good.
Ugh. If this makes my Linux systems less stable, I don’t even know what the fuck I’m going to do. I won’t go back to Windows, I’m not buying Macs (which have their own software problems anyway), and my hardware probably won’t work with any BSD variant.
What Linus is saying that LLM review is finding decades old esoteric bugs in the kernel code, like dirtyfrag. And the amount of bugfixes and mitigations are pushing the update sizes up. This is making the kernel more secure and stable in the long run. It will be just a rocky couple of years.
they are NOT vibe coding the kernel.
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It was good old times before the AI fucked up everything. So we need to keep the old distro’s to use them as long as possible. Huge updates means AI will kill the joy of Linux.
Fuck you, Linus and fuck you AI!
Linus can fuck right off, hes made it clear that his time has come and gone. We should all just move on and leave him to his delusions.
You didn’t read the article, did you?
Linus likes AI, Linus can fuck off.
Torvalds has also declared “Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects,” and therefore all-but-welcomed machine-made contributions to the project.
I’m not a big fan of AI myself, and I think most of its use cases are over hyped. But in this case, AI is used to find vulnerabilities in the linux kernel. Vulnerabilities that any script kiddy can now also find very easily using AI. So it makes sense for developers to use the same tools.
As for now, the code to patch these vulnerabilities, are written by the developers and they have responsibility for the code they commit. I don’t know if some of them use AI to generate code, but I would suspect they read it through very thoroughly before committing.
I am aware of how he is using it I don’t care. The enviromental impact of current LLMs is beyond irresponsible.
In a perfect world where it wasn’t using all of our power and water and land then I wouldn’t give single shit.
