Today, lovely Windows 11 installed an update. And since then I don’t have internet access because Microslop Wincrap 11 can somehow magically no longer connect to the DNS server - to any DNS server. No other device in my network has the same issue. I’ve been bugfixing for over an hour and haven’t found a solution. setting the DNS manually, resetting the network adapter, flushed all DNS entries (I used the commandline tool on Windows!). nothing works.
I don’t have ANY more patience with W11!
I already tried Linux. I’m using Ubuntu Server for hosting Nextcloud and Fedora just to play around.
Do you prefer Fedora or Ubuntu? I have an old Thinkpad…
(And no, I will not go down the rabbit hole of Arch ;-) At least not for now.)
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I am a Debian man myself for servers. I don’t want any Canonical bullshit to break mid LTS.
While I am still running win 10 I am undecided which desktop to switch to. CachyOS and Fedora are the front runners but man do I hate Gnome.
I’m not a big fan of Gnome on Fedora either. Everything is just so big and needs so much space. CachyOS is a tad to new for my taste for using it as a daily driver.
why not fedora KDE? it is a full edition now and a really smooth experience
Seconding Fedora KDE. But if you’re not a fan, you could also opt for many of the other supported desktops (cinnamon, XFCE, etc.)
Cinnamon is the way to go if you have finicky peripherals like Razen keyboard/mouse or a Wacom tablet.
I use cachyOS with kde plasma on wayland right now and would recommend.
You don’t have to use Gnome on Cachy or Fedora. Fedora has spins for nearly every DE, and Cachy also has an option for nearly every DE on install.
Fedora is wonderful. I would not recommend Ubuntu to anyone. Fuck Canonical, who fancy themselves the next Microsoft.
For an easy version of Arch, try Cachy.
Highly recommend Fedora over Ubuntu.
Ubuntu Server and Desktop has some dumb defaults that look measly next to Windows, but still annoying next to Fedora.
Fedora also generally has more solid documentation without a bunch of LTS slag threads with outdated answers.
Not Ubuntu. Mint or Fedora.
You like Gnome (how everything looks in Ubuntu)? Use Fedroa Workstation, or use Mint and install Gnome yourself.
This is only my opinion. After all, this is your computer; do what you want.
Thank you all for the many replies!
I’ll summarize it as followed:
- Ubumtu: one does not use Ubuntu any more
- Linux Mint: always a good start
- Fedora: also always good and would be good for a Thinkpad
- Bazzite for gaming
- Gnome really is not for everyone
Since I already tried Fedora, I’m going with Linux Mint for the moment.
(In fact, the installation of Mint is running right now and I’m using the whole SSD, no windows boot manager partition will survive!!!)
Linux Mint: always a good start
Started and stopped there, I love it and never even think about windows anymore
LMDE or ubuntu based? I’d recommend LMDE over ubuntu based
For a new user - Ubuntu LTS. In a few years move to Debian.
Any distro > Ubuntu > Qubes (not for beginners haha)
Fedora. Better than Ubuntu in pretty much every regard.
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Echoing everyone else, Mint. Bazzite (which is Fedora based) if you’re planning to run more recent games on it. Mint isn’t bad at running games by any means, Bazzite is just more fine tuned towards it. With Cinnamon/KDE they basically feel like Windows minus the bloat.
and sorry for the ragebait. I’m just a little bit frustrated and had to write it down
I have been on Fedora since 33 or 34, and quite like it. I will say that I have had upgrade woes twice though. I set up Nextcloud on Ubuntu using snaps about 10 years ago, and it’s still kicking, although it goes down every time it decides it’s going to update itself. Win 11 at work: Randomly, half our fleet stopped loading Teams chats last week, and six machines lost their UEFI boot entries today. Big fan.
I didn’t want to program shit; I don’t care about command line; I love a good gui and didn’t want to fuck with finicky drivers. Moving to Ubuntu from Windows allowed me to continue to use my mostly browser-based computing existence without having to learn to use a new tool. I may not use Arch but one less Windows victim must be a step in a better direction.
I moved to Fedora a few years ago. Spent a week or two orienting myself, like going to a new town and not knowing how to get around. So glad I did. I choose when and what to update.
Not perfect though, it lost keyboard connection yesterday. Reboot fixed it.
what made you decide to use Fedora and not Ubuntu. Or Linux Mint?
Fedora all the way.
Fedora, mainly because ubuntu is putting ai into it’s release in the coming months. Which is fine if you’re visually impaired, but afaict that’s not why they’re putting it in.
I’ll be switching to Cachy once I’m forced to switch.
AI backed into the OS? No thanks, that’s really a reason to NOT go for Ubuntu. Edit: corrected typo
Yeah. It was really disappointing to hear that. I’ve been using Ubuntu for almost a decade now. ;-;
Since Mint is Ubuntu-based: do you know if Mint will have the same AI crap in the OS?
I’m honestly not sure.
Go LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition), since Ubuntu is based on Debian, you cut off their bullshit.
