China says they support international law, but then dont, look at what they do in the south pacific, the 9 dashes or whatever, making territorial claims against the Philippines and Taiwan, copy right infringement etc. Im not mad at China for training russian troops they are somewhat friendly to one another.
I think the artificial islands is China trying to be clever. Allegedly they are doing that to ensure their commercial traffic, IDK if this is really necessary? But some say that USA (through allies) have China kind of locked in, and could block Chinese transports in case of conflict.
If that is true, I can understand how that is a problem for China, and why they are trying to get around it.
Yep, just look at all their activities in SEA. The Indonesian and Laos governments are already being held hostage since they are using their national budgets and some of their national assets as collateral.
Well, it’s certainly not it’s own nation as Taiwan people are part of the Han Chinese nation. Perhaps the Han Chinese in Taiwan will eventually become a State that is separate from China. But so far that hasn’t happened.
Right and that’s why countries have pledged to defend China…from itself? Is that the argument you are wanting to make? The reason its not recognized by the Un is because China is a power player with veto rights. Its all stupid politics to not upset china
You do understand the history right? The US chose to back the KMT on Taiwan, sort of like if England had decided to back the Confederates if they hold up in Florida. Except the KMT on Taiwan never seceded. In fact, they organized a fascist dictatorship on the island and they imprisoned and killed anyone who wanted to reunify with the mainland, and they also imprisoned and killed anyone who wanted to secede. The US was supporting them throughout the entire 4 decades of the White Terror wherein the government in Taiwan explicitly stated they were not a separate nation.
In fact, a bunch of Chinese people from Taiwan who fled to the US or Japan tried to build secessionary movements in exile and the KMT on Taiwan chased them down with spies and assassins to stop them.
Just because the US carries on the age old tradition of white European empires trying to pull pieces of China way from China doesn’t mean Taiwan isn’t part of China.
I do understand history, thanks. I mean, if you wanted to make the comparison, you got it backwards. And saying Taiwan imprisoned and killed a bunch of people for disagreeing seems to just be part of how China functions then, because mainland Taiwan has done the exact same thing lol.
China says they support international law, but then dont, look at what they do in the south pacific, the 9 dashes or whatever, making territorial claims against the Philippines and Taiwan, copy right infringement etc. Im not mad at China for training russian troops they are somewhat friendly to one another.
I think the artificial islands is China trying to be clever. Allegedly they are doing that to ensure their commercial traffic, IDK if this is really necessary? But some say that USA (through allies) have China kind of locked in, and could block Chinese transports in case of conflict.
If that is true, I can understand how that is a problem for China, and why they are trying to get around it.
No, that’s just excusing china’s behavior. They do shit like all the big players do
Yep, just look at all their activities in SEA. The Indonesian and Laos governments are already being held hostage since they are using their national budgets and some of their national assets as collateral.
The UN recognizes that Taiwan is a province of the nation-state of China. That’s why there is no official Taiwan delegation to the UN.
And the un is wrong an awful lot. Taiwan is its own nation. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
Well, it’s certainly not it’s own nation as Taiwan people are part of the Han Chinese nation. Perhaps the Han Chinese in Taiwan will eventually become a State that is separate from China. But so far that hasn’t happened.
Right and that’s why countries have pledged to defend China…from itself? Is that the argument you are wanting to make? The reason its not recognized by the Un is because China is a power player with veto rights. Its all stupid politics to not upset china
You do understand the history right? The US chose to back the KMT on Taiwan, sort of like if England had decided to back the Confederates if they hold up in Florida. Except the KMT on Taiwan never seceded. In fact, they organized a fascist dictatorship on the island and they imprisoned and killed anyone who wanted to reunify with the mainland, and they also imprisoned and killed anyone who wanted to secede. The US was supporting them throughout the entire 4 decades of the White Terror wherein the government in Taiwan explicitly stated they were not a separate nation.
In fact, a bunch of Chinese people from Taiwan who fled to the US or Japan tried to build secessionary movements in exile and the KMT on Taiwan chased them down with spies and assassins to stop them.
Just because the US carries on the age old tradition of white European empires trying to pull pieces of China way from China doesn’t mean Taiwan isn’t part of China.
I do understand history, thanks. I mean, if you wanted to make the comparison, you got it backwards. And saying Taiwan imprisoned and killed a bunch of people for disagreeing seems to just be part of how China functions then, because mainland Taiwan has done the exact same thing lol.
Given that Taiwan has never existed as a country, your position that the two bodies are part of the same country is aligned with my position
Given that you’re wrong, and that Taiwan is a country, no. Just because its not recognized by the un doesn’t make it not a country lol
The UN does not recognize Taiwan as a souvereign country, because China made that a requirement for them to participate in that institution.
It’s also because Taiwan does not claim to be a sovereign country.