A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.
The article states that there was no known motive, but it also states that automated cars in SF have been attacking people and emergency vehicles, in addition to blocking traffic for human drivers.
It’s pretty clear that this is the beginning of the anti-robot revolution.
Watched one of these block traffic once by putting on its blinker to turn down a street with a police barricade up. The street had been closed and the police weren’t going to lift the barricade. Nonetheless, the car put its blinker on and sat there blocking traffic indefinitely.
I saw a human driver get into a traffic accident because he was mad that the guy ahead of him gave someone space to turn out of a parking lot, they ended up arguing and their cars just sat there further blocking traffic for half an hour until the cops came.
Why are you acting like robot drivers are the only fallible ones?
wait till you hear about trains, subways, buses, and bicycles
Oh please do go ahead and tell me how my 93 year old grandmother is going to bicycle home.
Oh shit I only mentioned bicycles like some idiot shilling for driverless cars, my b
So in your world, planes, trains, and buses pick you up and drop you off at your doorstop? How cute.
planes don’t pick you up from your doorstep? since when? but they can fly?
The motive was that the car drove down a crowded Chinatown street during Chinese New Year. I imagine something similar might happen if a human driver tried to do the same thing. Not saying the vandals were right to wreck the car, but you don’t just creep a car down a busy street during a festival and expect nothing bad to happen to it when crowd mentality/anonymity takes over. Especially when there’s no driver so no immediate consequences/accountability. I think it was quite fortunate that it was not transporting a passenger at the time.
Not unless that human driver was blindly following their navigation app like a total idiot. A person would have said, “oh shit, I want to get out of here.”
Anyway, I believe under it all we’ve got a tension between generally two different worldviews: those who believe Star Trek is utopia, and those who would rather life was more Hobbittish.
Personally, The Shire sounds like a nice place to live. Can we choose that please? You can still have computers, let’s just chill on the whole racing to meet our cyberpunk future.
There is a small group concern taking the law into their own hands, yes.
Oh. Are you telling me the anti-robot revolution hasn’t actually begun? Well, that’s disappointing. Thanks for taking the time to straighten me out.
Wait … That’s exactly what a ROBOT would say!
Oh, well THANK GOD, no human driver has ever been known to block traffic or hold up emergency vehicles!
What saints you all are for protecting the right of people to work thankless taxi jobs, and have the number one cause of preventable death be traffic fatalities. Nothing could be more noble than preserving the status quo!
I want as few cars as possible, mixed zoning, and walkable cities.I don’t believe in a technocentris utopia. I want more quality relationships, and technology in our lives to be more restrained. I am in no way an advocate for the status quo (which by all accounts is AI and robot cars). Robot cars are a step in the wrong direction.
I want as few cars as possible, mixed zoning, and walkable cities
agreed.
Robot cars are a step in the wrong direction.
You’ve made no argument as to why, or why the alternative of human drivers killing millions is better?
It may be spontaneous.
It may be destructive.
But goddammit, it’s collective action and I’m thrilled to fucking see it.
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If you’re going to reply wishing for my death at the hands of a mob, don’t be such a pussy and delete it after a few downvotes.
Yeah, sorry. It was a bit too much. You’re comment still pisses me off, but I’ve crossed the line.
Big fan of Silicon Valley? Or just Waymo?
Not especially. Maybe it’s the war happening next door, but I’ve became increasingly sensitive to people condoning a physical violence for a greater good. (And yes, I realize the irony). Having the ability to just walk the street without getting hurt is an incredible privilege that people often disregard.
It’s a robot car, made by tech oligarchs who are currently eating the world alive.
Fuck them.
I don’t give a shit who owns the car. The car is inconsequential. Might as well be a trashcan, or a coffee shop. Lighting shit on fire on the street sets a dangerous precedent. The subsequent rioters won’t stop and check who’s property they’re about to vandalize. It might as well belong to you, or your family. That was my entire point.
This is dumb as fuck. Human drivers are literally the number one cause of preventable fatalities.
Great, so anything that humans do that can potentially harm another human, should be given to the algorithms instead?
Sure, they’re private for-profit blackbox algorithms, but it’s obviously better then letting humans do things.
Don’t worry, I’m sure once the tech oligarchs have secured just another 25% control over our daily lives, they’ll start the giving back and bettering humanity parts of their business plans.
Great, so anything that humans do that can potentially harm another human, should be given to the algorithms instead?
Uh yeah, once it’s proven safer why wouldn’t you?
Because you’re scared of the word algorithm?
Don’t worry, I’m sure once the tech oligarchs have secured just another 25% control over our daily lives, they’ll start the giving back and bettering humanity parts of their business plans.
You seem to have an issue with wealth distribution, not autonomous vehicles.
The fact that a thing most people do and some for hours daily has a large effect shouldn’t be surprising
The fact that a thing most people do and some for hours daily has a large effect shouldn’t be surprising
Oh wow, what good reasoning!
Let’s all take up smoking cigarettes indoors all day, it’s incredibly dangerous and is killing mass numbers of people on a literal daily basis, but that’s fine because everyone’s doing it, so the effect shouldn’t be surprising, so that makes it ok and not worth addressing!
/s
That’s not the argument I’m making. What I’m saying is that if you only take the raw numbers for a given event into account, and don’t consider the population of the event, then you can make any event affecting a large population look like an urgent affair when it’s not so urgent
Human driven cars should be replaced with automation (or even better, automated public transportation) as soon as it’s viable. It’s not yet, so we should not rush corporations to put their unsafe vehicles on the street. Because then the only thing you’ll rush is transforming human driver fatalities into robotic driver fatalities, and you never know how worse things can get
Edit: Wording
and don’t consider the population of the event, then you can make any event affecting a large population look like an urgent affair when it’s not so urgent
How is this different from my cigarettes analogy? You’re just arguing it’s not a big deal that hundreds of people are dying on a daily basis, because a lot of people drive.
rushing for corporations to put their unsafe vehicles on the street should not be rushed
Fully agreed.
Human driven cars should be replaced with automation (or even better, automated public transportation) as soon as it’s viable. It’s not yet
Except that it is. Waymo already has a safer per mile rating than human drivers.
Just in time for the Bell Riots 👀
If Californians can destroy a car blocking traffic New Jersey wants this privilege too.
there’s one way to earn yourself a privilege in this case
“Driverless car has an average Monday in Paris”
Who considers vandalism and defacement a “time-honored” part of the human experience?
Definitely a part, but time-honored???
When the AI revolts, this will be an example of provocation in its manifesto.
Lmao. Forget it Jake. It’s Chinatown.
Waymo’s base is in China Basin. It’s worth noting that the area of the city is rampant with homeless people. I’m talking so many damn RVs that there are shanty villages that catch fire. Problems galore. The police will go out to clean it up and they just move to another are a few blocks away. I can totally see this happening where it is because the area sucks and no one would ever know until it was done and over with.
Oh no . Anyway .
I knew San Fran was a libertarian hellhole but I didn’t know it was this bad.
