• obvs@lemmy.world
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    I switched to OpenOffice.org(now LibreOffice) when Microsoft replaced menus with ribbons.

    And I switched from Google to DuckDuckGo after being a Google user from nearly the very beginning, because they tried to claim earlier this week that they couldn’t prove I was over 18 years old unless I provided them my legal identification.

    Thanks Google, I can’t imagine how the fact that I’ve physically been using your product and logging into the account for more than 20 years would leave any question in your mind that I’m over 18 years old, but you do you.

    No regrets with LibreOffice. None.

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      Fine unless the company you work for uses MS Office and you have to bring work home. In that case, the seamless compatibility is difficult to bypass.

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    Same for Linux and office365

    Word 365 on Linux is literally sabotaging you, at random deleting texts you previously wrote. Whole sets of words just randomly disappear as if you never typed them. You type them, they’re there, you continue typing and 1-2 paragraphs later, part of the text you wrote is suddenly gone. No undo available or anything, it’s as if it never happened.

    It got to the point heere i wrote documents in Google drive, then exported then and imported them in word 365, that did work

    Then I found out that all I had to do is send M$ servers a user agent header saying it’s Windows 11 And suddenly everything works

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      Ah, that was it then? I’m currently forced to use this crap. I had to run office from a virtual machine because office 365 was terribly unreliable. Like, it started fucking up highlights and shits.

      In any case, word sucks even if it does not actively try to suck. I have a big list of complaints. If ms has to resort to this tactics, they are actually suffering us.

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      Working is better and sorpressively, gaming is better as well… also, i may have saved my GPU because of switching to linux for gaming.

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    Just wait. Mac users usually have more money than they need, so they can easily afford lawyers to beat into MicroSlop.

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    Libreoffice. I tried it long ago and it was bad, but that is no longer the case. Give it a chance

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    Yay, that’ll be a fun day at work… I’m in charge of administering our fleet of Macs and all the users use MS Office heavily. We are currently not allowed to provide access to Office 365 for data protection reasons, so if they brick the volume license we are currently using I won’t have a viable solution for them, beyond switching to OWA/Apple Mail and some other office suite.

    The writing’s been on the wall for a while though. They recently made it so that you can’t hide the Office 365 nag screen while using a volume license, which confuses users into thinking they don’t have a license. I fucking hate Microslop.

    Edit: As far as I can tell this will only affect users using a 2019 volume license (which is already not compatible with current versions), but the 2021 license will continue to work? (Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/update-microsoft-365-or-office-on-your-macos-or-ios-device-f418ae5d-bb5f-4078-b3d9-9340f5dd084e ). I’d definitely be interested if anyone has more information. In any case, I’m sure it’s just a matter of time until they fuck everyone not using a subscription based license for any of their products.

    Edit 2: Nevermind. 13th October is the day Microslop has chosen to fuck me: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/system-requirements/end-of-support-for-office-2021

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      Edit 2: Nevermind. 13th October is the day Microslop has chosen to fuck me: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/system-requirements/end-of-support-for-office-2021

      You’ll still get a few years before the software becomes remotely disabled, though. This story about Office 2019 losing functionality follows Office 2019 losing support in 2023. If that’s the rate things go, then maybe Office 2021 will lose functionality either 2 years from now (7 years after release) or 3 years from now (3 years after losing support).

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        True, but running EOL software that doesn’t receive updates to known vulnerabilities isn’t really an option.

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          Yeah, but that’s always been true of paid software licenses for a particular version: it reaches EOL and you have to decide whether to live with the possibility of unpatched known vulnerabilities or pay for an upgrade to a more recent release.

          MS Office has been doing this from back in the Windows 3.0 days at least.

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            True. But Office for Mac uses the same installer for 365, 2021 and 2024 (and 2019 until they EOL’d it). It’s not that they stop updating old software. They just arbitrarily decide you no longer get the updates if you’re on an older license.

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      Because it’s Microsoft and whether anybody likes it or not, they’ll do whatever they want and at best, lose a few pennies.

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    I found that Pages and Numbers work just fine for me at home, and it comes included with my Mac. And if I’m truly desperate, Google Docs and Sheets are always a viable alternative.

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      Cool but if you handle complex documents with stuff like macros you’re straight out of luck. Even if you can get some compatibility you’re never going to be quite sure it will all work and look perfectly.

      This is how Microsoft keeps their position.

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      Or if you’re not desperate open office/libre office forget the meta because I don’t fuck with docs outside of work these days

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        True. I don’t spend as much time these days word processing as I used to, but I really should get around to downloading libre office.

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    They even edited information about support, it was meant to work but they edited it to your files will be safe and openable in word 365 app

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    These articles go from panic bait to feel good news after you completely switch away from Microslop,