YouTube’s climate deniers turn into climate doomers — A new report documents a sharp rise in arguments that clean energy and climate policies won’t work::A new report documents a shift away from climate denial and a sharp rise in arguments that clean energy and climate policies won’t work.

  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Here’s my thing: I absolutely believe that clean energy and radical climate policies would work. However I have basically 0 hope that enough countries will implement these things to evade climate catastrophe.

    • hglman@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      Mitigation is a spectrum not a binary outcome. Anyone arguing to not try does not understand the problem or is being dishonest.

    • Libertus@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I agree. Additionally, I don’t believe that, without controlled depopulation (restrictive birth control, not killing people), we can achieve climate stability and solve other issues like increasing pollution of the entire environment. I believe that the population should have stopped growing in the 90s (at about 4 billion), of course, this number is a hunch, not knowledge.

      We have reached a point far beyond sustainability; we are on artificial life support. Without this support, even getting dressed would be a challenge, given the lack of a natural and clean source of textile materials. Nearly all clothes are made of plastic or contain some plastic additives. As we wash these clothes in our machines, we inadvertently consume plastic particles in our food and drink.

      Speaking of machines, the devices produced today have an increasingly shorter lifespan. Simultaneously, the recycling of these devices is problematic, as our waste is often massively exported to third-world countries.

      Another concern is the escalating scarcity of drinking water, among various other challenges. The list goes on and on. Anyone expecting the Earth to accommodate an unlimited number of people is plain insane or doesn’t understand the complexity of the issue.

      We must act now on all the fields, even those unpopular ones (like population control).

      Those who are against population control, please take a look at this initiative: https://populationmatters.org/ and its patrons (like Sir David Attenborough and Jane Goodall).

  • Greg Clarke@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    To be fair, destroying the planet and foresaking future generations is easier than admitting you were wrong.

  • Goodie@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    so, we’ve moved from “ots not real” through past “maybe its real, but its not.human caused” all the way to “its real and we can’t do anything about it”/“its too late to do anything about ot”

    • PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I doubt it’s a natural evolution.

      Climate change denial was the product of oil companies and worked on idiots. The “it’s too late anyway” is likely also the work of oil companies and works on people who think they’re smarter than the idiots.

  • Nudding@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I think if we found an organism that drives hundreds of other species to extinction a day, we’d do our damndest to eradicate it.

    Unfortunately that organism is us. Human exceptionalism is gross. We deserve to go extinct.

  • gaifux@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Nobody listened when they kept telling us we were reaching Peak Oil back in the early '00s and now look at us. Completely out of oil. We need to listen to the climate scare ppl for suresies!!