• Corngood@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    My non-expert take on this:

    Haier claims these plugins cause the firm significant financial damage

    Don’t care. Competition is not damage.

    violate copyright laws

    Prove it.

    plug-ins developed by you […] that are in violation of our terms of service

    The plug-ins never agreed to your ToS. Better sue your customers instead.

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    If any appliance manufacturer says that accessing your own appliance (that you own) outside their software ecosystem is financially “damaging” to them, they might as well be saying “Hey, just so you know, we’re collecting and selling your data.” If you have already purchased the appliance and their software is free, there is absolutely no other way that using a 3rd-party application could damage their bottom line.

    Thanks, Haier, for letting me know never to purchase your products.

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    Matter. Get it adopted. Buy and implement only Matter devices in the future.

    Needs a year or two, but if we can get that tech widespread, this cloud stuff will be less essential.

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      Or, you know, just don’t buy smart devices. They are pointless wastes of money and don’t solve any problem but the imaginary problem their marketing made you think actually exists.

      But they do create a whole lot of actual problems by having them in your home, and on your network.

      Which is better than just supporting something that google, amazon, and apple have developed. Which makes it inherently suspect and suspicious, and anyone with a brain should have an intense primal need to avoid anything being pushed by those 3 individually… much less working together as one.

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        Matter, if implemented correctly, would save them all money and allow the privacy conscious to drop the cloud.

        They are losing money on their voice assistants, so they want out of the business of being the voice part of the central hub.

        They’ll find ways to monetize the users who are less privacy concerned, but that’s not me and I think it’s not a lot of people who are here.

        Ediit: I didn’t downvote you. I’m here for discourse and have found down votes don’t help that.

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          I don’t care if you did down or up vote me.

          Being upvoted doesnt make someone right, and being downvoted doesnt make someone wrong. Its just empty, addiction-driven gamification of human interaction that is completely devoid of any legitimate or good or purpose.

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            Its just empty, addiction-driven gamification of human interaction that is completely devoid of any legitimate or good or purpose.

            Or, you know, just maybe, it’s another form of communication, and does have some use.

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              No, its a parasite thats been added to communication, to its great detriment, to trick fools into fighting for points in a dopamine driven addiction scam and is directly responsible for the polarized and extreme direction human interaction has taken online.

              It is literally destroying communication. Not enhancing it. not providing another form.

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                No, its a parasite thats been added to communication, to its great detriment, to trick fools into fighting for points in a dopamine driven addiction scam and is directly responsible for the polarized and extreme direction human interaction has taken online.

                It is literally destroying communication. Not enhancing it. not providing another form.

                Wonder if you still feel this way when a comment of yours gets many upvotes, instead of downvotes?

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    I don’t use Haier products but a similar thing happened with Chamberlain when they blocked the MyQ integration even though it was using the legitimate API and not breaking any rules. No attempt to work with anyone in the HA community at all, just shut everything down.

    On one hand, this means projects like Home Assistant are getting popular enough to have enough usage to effect these companies. So that’s great! In the long term, we’ll all figure out solutions, but in the short term it feels like an increasing fight between corporate and open-source control over smart devices.

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        No opinion on Haier but I also like the design. I appreciate an architect who designs something outaide of the literal box.

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          I can give them props for trying something, sure. Too bad that something looks like it was left in the sun next to a mirror.

          I think it would be a lot better if the layers matched, instead of being kinda random.

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    The first thing I do when researching a new electronic thing is to search “[brand] home assistant” to see if there is already an integration for their stuff. If not, I usually keep looking.

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    Good news is there is a lot of forks that were made by various users. I have a copy of the source…

    Unfortunate news is that development is likely stopping so if they change the API I don’t know if there are any fellas that will come around to fix it…

  • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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    Last Haier appliance I had was a heap of shit anyway so no great loss avoiding their garbage in the future.

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      I was under the impression they were dead and gone for about 20 years.

      The tv I had 20 years ago was garbage and I assumed they were just some shitty knockoff brand. Surprises me that they own GE.

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        Last thing I had was a dishwasher by them a couple of years ago. Seals leaked about 6 months out of warranty and it cost about as much as a new one to replace them.