• thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    If laws are never enforced do they exist? Need to imprison people for white colar crimes or ban them from ever holding a position of power equivalent to their current.

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    13 days ago

    The third largest economy in the world is uniquely positioned to end this, if they wanted to.

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      13 days ago

      Exactly this, kick them out of California and don’t allow them back as an example of what happens when you fuck around.

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          13 days ago

          I like that idea, but I really feel that corporations should face actual permanent consequences (just like a regular person) in order to begin balancing society. Until we put our foot down and bring mega corps to heel they will continue to lie, cheat, steal, and assist in things like genocide.

          This isn’t a new problem either. IBM provided the computing power and logistics that allowed Germany to carry out the Holocaust in the same way Amazon, Microsoft, Meta, and Google have done so for Israel.

          These companies are at war with humanity.

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            13 days ago

            Absolutely. A corporate death penalty would be even better than existential fines.

            “Corporations are people my friend”, indeed.

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      We should be getting every Californian to work together to make that happen.

      Also serious queation. What do you think they can do to make that happen?

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        Enforce existing laws to start with?

        Legislate fines that are a percentage of the company’s gross revenue if they don’t act right.

        These are things that have been tested in other countries & they work.

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      Friend, the governments are almost entirely on the side of the corporations. The only war is class war - the rich against the rest of us.

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        13 days ago

        From a global perspective, lower class Americans fit the criteria for being rich. The true conflict is between 1st world countries and the global poor.

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          You’re incorrect.

          Wealth is not how much passes through your fingers.

          It’s how much you get to keep.

          Slavery is not being denied the ability to earn. It is being denied the ability to save.

          Lower-class people in the United States may in fact have quite a bit of money passing through their fingers at any given moment, but the way that financial systems are structured in the United States, those people are not beneficiaries of those funds, but merely vessels from which each and every cent must be extracted. No money is left at the end of the month, after rents, health insurance, transportation, the absurd costs of food, et cetera.

          No, on the contrary, these people do NOT fit the criteria for being rich. They lack ownership of everything, and are paid a wage that is intentionally set lower than their actual living expenses. The fact that their wages may be deceptively high is LITERALLY a sign of deception and not in fact a sign that they get to keep any of that money.

          The war is ABSOLUTELY between the wealthy and the poor within each country.

          It is pretty freakin laughable to claim that the wealthy in the United States and the poor in the United States are on the same side of this conflict. The poor in the United States are the most direct victims of exploitation by the wealthy in the United States(and not to say that the poor in other countries are not also extremely exploited, but the poor in the United States are the ones the wealthy in the United States have direct knowledge of inflicting pain upon).

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          That’s for sure true, but even America’s middle class has more in common with the global poor than they do with the billionaires. Resistance must be carried out everywhere, even and maybe especially in America.

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            While you’re correct, the cumulative effect of lower class and middle class Americans on 3rd world peoples dwarfs that of the upper class. It takes a lot of time and resources to maintain the lifestyle of a single person working 40 hours at McDonald’s.

            His consumer products were made in 3rd world factories polluting their local environments and the coffee he’s drinking was bought for less than a dollar a kilogram from a farmer destroying a priceless rainforest. When this impact is multiplied by three-hundred million, the effects are as dramatic as they are unsustainable.

            …I try not to think about it. It’s a conflict between guilt and gratitude.

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              It’s a shitty situation where we’re both correct. The only thing to assuage that guilt is to try to use our privilege to bring down the system.

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    How else do you expect them to monetize every aspect of your life, Peasant? More money means Better Than You.

    Know your place and hand over your information. What are you, a communist?

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    13 days ago

    fair enough. I hope all the Linux distros take note. you can easily not comply with the age verification laws by, not complying with them.