• Red_October@lemmy.world
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    Remember back when Elon kept calling himself a Free Speech Absolutist? That just gets funnier every day.

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      Right-wingers only seem to care about free speech when it applies to themselves. Anyone else and they’ll get talking of “defeating the woke mind virus” or whatever ridiculous way they decide to demonize others.

      Reminds me of that Sartre quote

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      The_donald was the only lesson I needed to learn what conservatives thought of free speech.

      It would be interesting to know what conservatives actually believe. By this point we’ve broken down each and everyone of their professed beliefs and found nothing of substance.

      Here is a list of things I remember conservatives use to say their ideology was based on:

      *Christian morals - You can even look back at their warped version of Christian morality from 1970s forward and still say today that Trump has fully exposed them to be baseless

      *Small government - Trump and Co are actively trying to expand government authority and have successfully taken away the rights of woman all over the US

      *Democracy - Trump told democracy to go fuck itself Jan. 6 2021

      *Capitalism - Capitilism for the serfs socialism for the capitilists

      *American Exceptionalism - At some point America was great but I’m not going to say when.

      *No Child Left Behind - jk jk we knew that was bullshit from the get go

      *Free speech - ahem I mean free ‘hate’ speech. all other speech is negotiable.

      The list goes on my dudes. Would love to know what these people really believe. My guess is nothing. They are just mad and acting out. We’ve all seen it growing up. The people who just refuse to help themselves no matter what you do and you’re constantly picking up the pieces for them.

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        “Conservatives don’t care about free speech. Conservatives cares about power. Faithfulness, old-time values, homemade bread, that’s the just means to the end. It’s a distraction. I thought you would have figured that out by now.”

        • slightly altered quote from Handmaid’s Tale
      • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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        Conservatism is an excuse for your instant, emotional reactions.

        If you formed your beliefs in schools over many years, that’s why you’re probably a liberal now.

        They literally want to shoot people for simple larceny or for blocking the sidewalk in protest. It’s an ideology for people whose lizard brains make all their “decisions.” You know these people, how they just go through life reacting to things. You can trick them into believing anything. I’m not saying that if you’re a conservative you’re going to kill someone for blocking your sidewalk, I’m saying that if you lean into the ideology enough is literally deforms your amygdala and you lose touch with your ability to be rational.

        One thing I enjoy is to get conservatives going about protests and police use of force especially with regard to public protests, civil disobedience, rioting, theft or destruction of private property.

        Get them all fired up. You know, tell them the protesters threw snowballs and maybe ice at the cops first, and that they came into a private shipping yard, broke into private storage, stole whatever they could carry, and set a bunch of it on fire. You know, get them talking about how they’d empty the clip. Then you can reveal casually that you were talking about the Boston Massacre and Boston Tea Party. They remember from grade school how they are supposed to feel about these events, and they are unable to reconcile with their repressed and curious inner children. There defense mechanisms literally cannot process why they are advocating for the British in the revolutionary war.

        You know, “what if these thieves and vandals burned your country’s flags from all government buildings, shot all the police, and said they were forming their own government with a new Constitution and to fuck off?” I like to say they are just dumb but really they are just emotionally immature and regressing.

      • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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        The Donald? Where you from you don’t know:

        • Hustler Magazine;
        • Mad Magazine;
        • Dungeons & Dragons;
        • Porn;
        • Mortal Combat for Sega.
        • The Simpsons;
        • Rap music;
        • South Park;
        • Kneel down during song;
        • Saying “gay.”

        I’m sure I’m forgetting twenty other things conservative literally tried to ban me from doing in my lifetime. Conservatives have zero credibility on free speech.

        In Russia it’s illegal to talk about it’s invasion of Ukraine. It’s called an anti-sedition law. Despite the First Amendment, anti sedition laws and seditious libel were illegal and punishable by long terms of imprisonment until lefty Supreme Court Justices decides so in 1964.

        These Justices on there now will flip us right back to prosecuting people for saying Israel is doing a genocide, or for saying “fuck the draft,” or for saying “fuck Donald Trump,” but not for saying “fuck Joe Biden.” Conservatives right now in America want laws that ban Americans from participating or even talking about “BDS.” Our Supreme Court in America just recently upheld such laws, without really reaching the issue, but keeping the laws alive. They also push ag-gag laws. They have zero credibility on free speech.

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        It is abundantly clear that they do not believe in anything and operate on the basis of reacting in spite to anything they are told to. It’s basically one whole hemisphere of the political spectrum hijacked by propaganda. We genx folk thought that the free access to information on the internet would set people free but this what we got instead.

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    No explanation other than Elon is a thin-skinned little bitch baby who’s carrying water for fascists.

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      He’s not carrying water for the facists, he IS a fascist and they’re trying to spill that water on everyone in an attempt to undermine people’s freedoms. Fuck him and fuck his kind

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    I don’t get why people still use that platform. It’s so hostile to the users. This is an election year and we’re just going to give him all this influence? Society is a big dumb animal.

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      I have never seen the appeal to Twitter. It’s never seemed like a useful part on social media. I have never heard a change and go “well now I will check it out.”

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    Anyone who follows the alt-right, did Joe or anyone else go ape shit over this yet? I’m assuming that because they were going crazy over the previous Twitter about certain infractions under the old guard … so this new shit must be driving them crazy. Being free speech activists and all that.

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      i keep wondering this myself, so many places are still prominently presenting the xitter button to follow them on,like it’s a totally normal thing to do. it’s fucking bizzare imo.

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      As opposed to what? It’s where the people they follow post. Why would they leave for somewhere that doesn’t have any content they care about? It’s like asking who the fuck is still on reddit. The answer is the enormous shitload of people who just want a steady feed of the same content they’ve always consumed.

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        Sure, and when you petition the people they follow, and ask them to drop the platform, they say they have to be where their audience is. It’s an ouroboros of apathy and cowardice.

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    This was always going to happen.

    Muskrat bought twitter specifically to make it Parler, GAB, and Truth Social all rolled into one.

    Banning, shadow-banning, or purging any and all dissenting views or content that differs from the Far Right narrative on the sites is the norm.

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      I can see several motives for him buying twitter.

      Get trump elected, Because:

      a) less taxes for the musky chodelet

      b) less pesky safety and labour regulation for tesla/spacex/neuralink

      c) drop support for Ukraine so he gets a shot at the rare minerals underneath it when russia has full control.

      He’s a useful idiot for trump and putin. Still not sure what the saudi angle is, though.

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    What a coincidence. People critical of israel got banned

    The account @Zei_Squirrel, which had 200,000 followers, explained in a Substack post that it was suspended over criticisms of Israel and Bill Ackman but was also not provided with an explanation from X. “If they don’t unban me, it will prove beyond all doubt that Twitter and Elon Musk are just explicitly doing the bidding of the genocidal Israeli regime and its deranged supporters like Bill Ackman.” The post continues, “There is no possibility that anything I have posted rises to the level of being ban-worthy, but nothing that Zionists posts constantly, explicit calls for genocide and mass killing of Palestinians, isn’t.”