• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I’m expecting to see dual battery EVs in the not too distant future. A Sodium battery for the primary that gets the most charges and discharges which can be easy and cheaper to replace. Beside that a Lithium battery which would only be drawn from after the Sodium battery was exhausted. This way if you’re doing shallow discharges for your “around town” driving then charging at night, and deep discharges for longer road trips where the energy density of Lithium shines.

      • LrdThndr@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        So only charge it to 80% and pretend 80% is 100%, like iPhones do. Why is that a concern?

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          2 years ago

          Or you could just use all of the space for a sodium battery and fully charge it as it won’t need long term storage in that state.

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        This is a solved problem. Most EVs won’t let you charge it to the actual 100% level or discharge it to 0.

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      I’m still dreaming of seeing EVs with flexible battery space, which users can fill according to their needs.
      Like a car comes with space for 10x 10 kWh slots.
      If 20 kWh serve your usual needs, the other spaces remain empty.
      And if you plan longer trips and don’t want to recharge each 100 miles, you put in additional batteries. Those batteries don’t need to be owned, but can be rented.
      Ideally there are lots of battery rental stations, where you can get charged batteries and instead of recharging the batteries in the EV, the rent’n’swap stations recharge them.
      During (EV) wise low use times, these stations can provide a buffer to the energy grid.
      …one can dream…

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          2 years ago

          Then buy it. No need to rent it then.
          The main focus was on flexible energy packs not on the renting, although I’d find it convenient if done right.

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            2 years ago

            You have far more faith in capitalists to do the right thing than I. They’ll put this shit behind user hostile DRM the same that Disney does for drink refills.

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        2 years ago

        Idk about renting, sounds like ass.

        A core charge would make more sense, like swapping propane tanks you get a discount for having the empty core with you.

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          2 years ago

          Wpuld you rather purchase an 80 kWh battery, alrhough you need most of the time only 20 kWh or purchase only 20 kWh and rent/swap some batteries when needed?
          I’m no talking about renting all battery capacity the whole year, just the extra capacity for the 2-4 weeks in the year when long-distance rides are in the mix.

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        2 years ago

        You know, putting and removing batteries would be a very tedious task and I really doubt that many owners will bother with it.

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          2 years ago

          It wouldn’t be necessary very often unless you’d want to take advantage of swapping instead of reloading.