• wuffah@lemmy.world
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    If you’re not ready to switch to Linux:

    Windows 10 Enterprise IoT is supported until 2032, works great, contains almost no bloat, and is free to download and activate.

    You can configure just about anything else you want or need using Chris Titus’ Power Shell Windows Utility.

    Rufus is simple and easy to use for extracting the ISO to a USB drive, and has built in options for setting up a local account and automatically disabling telemetry options during installation.

    Microslop is rabidly, desperately, sprinting-on-fire towards a closed mobile-style system paradigm, frothing at the mouth and glowing radioactive iridescent green with envy at Apple and Google’s silicon to application device and software ecosystem control. They want you to purchase the edge tensor hardware they need to run and train the LLMs and machine learning algorithms that will be used to analyze everything you do on your computer, perform deep learning recognition on every photo, video, and file on your hard drive, and securely export that model to themselves, advertisers, and the government at a premium, paid for by our tax dollars.

    They’re burning down their own company to do it, that’s how bad they want it.

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      Be warned though that some installers will yell at you for not having a “compatible version of Windows”. Its rare, but some apps don’t like the enterprise editions.

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        My brother used to use enterprise windows 10 until he started having that vary issue with trying to play COD.

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          Damn, I guess he can’t play the same game that’s been rereleased annually for 20 years then huh. What a bummer

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        I haven’t experienced this with years of Enterprise use, but back when I was on Win 7 LTSC until its very end, I did get yelled at that my Windows was too old, even if it was still under official support. But then again I suppose devs don’t expect people to try to run games on heart monitors or industrial equipment xd (or whatever else LTSC is intended for)

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      I’m banking on the world ending before then. Or I get an incurable cancer. Either way, fuck Microsoft.

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          I know, right! How can they expect to die from incurable cancer when we’ve got all the world’s compute devoted to curing it?

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    So they’re going to try to get everyone to buy new hardware when there is a shortage of ram and storage and they are ridiculously overpriced.

    The timing of this couldn’t be worse.

    Pass the popcorn.

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    Me: Using 11 year old PC. Originally rjnning Windows 7. Now running ZorinOS.

    I don’t particularly like linux, but…

    looks at Windows 10…11…now 12…

    Yeah, fuck that dumpster fire.

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      As long as you are not blasting away on random sites downloading every link you see then you are pretty safe. The old days of a hacker getting into your PC because you forgot to update your firewall are kind of gone.

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    They haven’t even gotten everyone into 11 yet. They are tossing out another OS? Seems, dare I say, sloppy.

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      Can i flawlessly run Photoshop, mine raft java, FFXIV, steam and all games, Media player classic. Music bee without having to deal with work around and terminal garbage as easy as I can windows? No, I thought so, I’ll come back once I can use the things I use daily without an issue and without having to install 6 different things to make stuff work

      Ubuntu is neat the few times I used it though.

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        Windows is only “easy” because you’re used to it. Coming to it fresh, windows 11 is such a shit show sometimes.

        Minecraft works on Linux,

        FFXIV works on Linux (it works on the steam deck which runs Linux, so it will work natively just like in windows),

        Steam itself works on Linux just the same.

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              I do and don’t. I want the stuff I use to work and I want a seamless transition as is going from android to iPhone or windows to mac. But this is all dependent of what distro I use and what my uses are. Which is what makes Linux so unique and great versus windows having bloatware hell and 3 versions which are all basically identical plus AI slop.

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                I do and don’t.

                Well you can’t have both 1 and 0. And it seems like you are choosing 0.

                You have your demands but part of moving to Linux is accepting things will be different. Mostly in a better way, but you’ll also not have everything from your Windows experience. Sitting around waiting for Photoshop to come to Linux, you’ll be sitting until retirement and beyond.

                You could always dual boot? Or run Windows in a VM for when you need Photoshop.

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                I just partitioned my drive thinking I might need windows for occasional tasks. I spend 99% of my time in Linux. I’ve only switched over a few times really just to organize old things. I’ll likely eventually just do away with windows to free up the space. I don’t really spend time in the console and spend less time solving issues in linux than I did in windows. For a lot of things, stuff just works.

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        Would you also claim the diesel cars are worthless because you can’t use regular gas in them? No, I thought so

        Photoshop is trash.

        Minecraft works just fine (it’s Java for crying out loud)

        Steam works natively. Valve’s most popular hardware device runs Linux.

        Media player classic

        You want to use a garbage Windows built-in application on Linux?

        without having to deal with work around and terminal garbage as easy as I can windows?

        Two things here;

        1. You can get around on Linux without a terminal

        2. The terminal is king in functionality

        3. Windows requires a command line for many things also, this isn’t a Linux only thing

        If you come to Linux expecting it to work like Windows and run all Windows applications, then you’re setting yourself up for failure with bad-faith expectations.

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          Media player classic is not window Media player. Windows Media player is trash.

          Photoshop might be trash (all of Adobe is, greedy little leeches), but it’s what I’ve been using it for like 22 years now and I’ve tried to use gimp but it’s just not the same, same with krita.

          I know steam and MC work, I was just listing stuff I use, I think music bee might even have a Linux version, and he’ll Linux might even have something better than Music bee. It usually does for media players.

          I never insulted Linux, I have no idea why people act like I do. Maybe me choosing I ubuntu might be insulting, but Linux having 6k options for me to pick is my own choice.

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        This right here is what’s keeping me from switching to Linux for now. My work PC is also my gaming PC. I need to run Adobe InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop flawlessly for work, and online games for leisure.

        I checked out alternatives, and while Photoshop has a few that are decent, InDesign and Illustrator alternatives are really not there yet for professional use. (Also Adobe programs are reportedly broken af when ran on Wine/etc., and I don’t have 2 GPUs to run them on virtual machine.)

        As for gaming, one of my daily driver games is Genshin, and I don’t want to risk getting banned bc I run it via some obscure launcher from GitHub that also makes the game crash on some new releases. Outside of Genshin, according to ProtonDB only 51% my Steam library is Platinum or Gold compatibility, 10% are various levels of broken, and 39% has no Linux support information.

        These barriers tend to get dismissed by Linux users, but they do exist, and are probably barriers to others too. With a Windows 10 Enterprise install from massgrave then clamped down with O&O Shutup, I get rid of Microsoft’s bullshit and get an OS that I know can run all of my programs without problems. (At least for the next few years lol, until Win10 ends all support.)

        For now, this setup works better for my needs, but I’m eagerly awaiting the time I can finally make the jump to Linux, and I find news like Photoshop installer being able to run on Linux and leaks that Genshin will get released on Steam (hopefully even on Deck) quite promising.

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    I’ll take this as a sign to continue converting as many of my friends and family to whichever Linux distro fits them best.

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      For consumer grade yes, I look forward to seeing more people choose anything else (even Apple). For enterprise, lol, they have every Dell or HP house in the world by the balls. Atleast they ensured system admins have more job security (not lime that was in short supply anyway)

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          Not you entirely- they’d just like to replace your currently functioning mind with one that can only regurgitate factual inaccuracies while continuing your subscription.

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    I still have clients refusing to buy Office 365 subscriptions and insist on sticking with their old copies of Office 2016. I’d love to see how Microsoft is gonna convince those cheap fucks that this is the correct path forward. This OS is dead.

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      I’d love to see how Microsoft is gonna convince those cheap fucks that this is the correct path forward

      I suspect we’re going to see some kind of sweeping compatibility issues in the next few years. Possibly a really ugly virus rips through the business community to scare people into switching.

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    I’m beginning to think this is all a conspiracy to try to kill Windows because Microsoft doesn’t want to support a desktop OS anymore.

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      My theory is that all these CEOs in charge of all these companies that are incorporating AI are being gaslit by the AIs. I mean, has anyone ever met an actually strong minded and intelligent CEO? It’s probably really easy.

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      To people in the real world, it sure seems like it. I think the people managing the product (middle management on up) live in their corpo bubble so far from reality, they don’t feel/hear or have to deal with actual state of things.

      Short term profitability over all else seems to be the mantra.

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    Quite surprised that they are pushing that, seeing as one of the biggest obstacles for Windows 11 getting adopted was that a lot of the existing hardware didn’t support the TPM requirements it put in place.

    Doing it again so soon seems like a recipe to make people not want to use 12 at all. After all, Windows 11 works fine for them, why change so soon?

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      Calling it: win12 will have a thin client cloud hosted SaaS edition, for those who can’t afford new ai-priced hardware.