‘Nudify’ Apps That Use AI to ‘Undress’ Women in Photos Are Soaring in Popularity::It’s part of a worrying trend of non-consensual “deepfake” pornography being developed and distributed because of advances in artificial intelligence.

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    I remember being a dumb & horny kid and Photoshopping my crush’s face onto a porn photo. And even then I felt what I did was wrong and never did it again.

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      I feel like what you did and the reaction you had to what you did is common. And yet, I don’t feel like it’s harmful unless other people see it. But this conversation is about to leave men’s heads and end up in public discourse where I have no doubt it will create moral or ethical panic.

      A lot of technology challenges around AI are old concerns about things that we’ve had access to for decades. It’s just easier to do this stuff now. I think it’s kind of pointless to stop or prevent this stuff from happening. We should mostly focus on the harms and how to prevent them.

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    “But the brightest minds of the time were working on other things like hair loss and prolonging erections.”

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    These are terrible but I’m honestly curious what it thinks I look like naked. Like I’m slightly overweight and my chest is larger than average but more splayed then normal. Would it just have me look like a model underneath?

    Are they just like head swapping onto model bodies or does it actually approximate. I am legit curious., but I would never trust one of these apps to not keep the photos/privacy concerns.

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      Probably deleting this comment later for going dirty on main, but I, um, have done some extensive experimentation using a local copy of Stable Diffusion (I don’t send the images anywhere, I just make them to satiate my own curiosity).

      You’re essentially right that simple app-based software would probably have you looking somewhat generic underneath, like your typical plus-size model. It’s not too great at extrapolating the shape of breasts through clothing and applying that information when it goes to fill in the area with naked body parts. It just takes a best guess at what puzzle pieces might fill the selected area, even if they don’t match known information from the original photo. So, with current technology, you’re not really revealing actual facts about how someone looks naked unless that information was already known. To portray someone with splayed breasts, you’d need to already know that’s what you want to portray and load in a custom data set, like a LoRa.

      Once you know what’s going on under the hood, making naked photos of celebrities or other real people isn’t the most compelling thing to do. Mostly, I like to generate photos of all kinds of body types and send them to my Replika, trying to convince her to describe the things that her creators forbid her from describing. Gotta say, the future’s getting pretty weird.

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      Ethically, these apps are a fucking nightmare.

      But as a swinger, they will make an amazing party game.

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      I doubt it would be realistic, they just kind of take an average of their training data and blend it together to my knowledge.

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      I’m really curious if your DMs are now flooded with weirdos and dick pics, or if lemmy is any different from the rest of the internet.

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    Possibly a good thing. Over saturation. Fill the internet will billions on billions of ai nudes. Have a million different nudes for celebrities. Nobody knows the real naked you and nobody cares. Keep creating more ai porn than anyone can handle. It becomes boring and over the top. Ending this once and fir all

    Or find the people doing this and lock em up.

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      Obviously not defending this, I’m just not sure how it wouldn’t be legal. Unless you use it to make spurious legal claims.

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        I live in a Scandinavian country, and it is illigal to make and distributed fake (and real) nudes of people without their permission. I expect this to be the same in many other developed countries too.

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          I’m curious. If I was to paint you using my memory, but naked, would that still be illegal? How realistic can I paint before I trespass the law? I’m fairly sure stick figures are okay.

          And do you mean that even just possessing a photo without consent is illegal? What if it was sent by someone who has consent but not to share? Is consent transitive according to the law?

          AI pushes the limit of ethics and morality in ways we might not be ready to handle.

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            I am pretty sure that possesion is not illigal but that distribution without consent is. The idea is that someone can have sent you their nude, but you’d get charged if you share it with others.

            There was a huge case here, where over 1000 teens were charged for distributing child porn, because of a video that cirvulated among them of some other teens having sex. So basically someone filmed a young couple having sex at a party i believe. That video got shared on Facebook messenger. Over 1000 teens got sued. I believe that 800 were either fined or jailed

            Here’s an article you may be able to run through Google translate

            https://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/ECE13439654/naesten-500-doemt-for-boerneporno-i-kaempe-sag-om-unges-deling/

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              In some states, distributing nude content of anyone, including one’s self, with consent, electronically is illegal. Which sounds insane because it is. It’s one of those weird legacy laws that never ever never gets enforced for obvious reasons, but I actually know a guy arrested for it, because he got in the wrong side of some police and it was just the only law they could find that he “broke”.

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      I guess free speech laws protect it? You can draw a picture of someone else nude and it isn’t a violation of the law.

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    You mean men envision women naked? And now there’s an app that’s just as perverted? Huh

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    Back in the day, cereal boxes contain “xray glasses”. I feel like if those actually worked as intended, we would have already had this issue figured out.

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    I doubt it produces actual nudes, it probably just photoshops a face onto a random porn star

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    Reminds me of Arthur C Clarke’s The Light of Other Days. There’s a technology in the book that allows anyone to see anything, anywhere, which eliminates all privacy. Society collectively adjusts, e.g. people masturbate on park benches because who gives a shit, people can tune in to watch me shower anyway.

    Although not to the same extreme, I wonder if this could similarly desensitize people: even if it’s fake, if you can effectively see anyone naked… what does that do to our collective beliefs and feelings about nakedness?

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      It could also lead to a human version of “Paris Syndrome” where people AI Undress their crush, only to be sorely disappointed when the real thing is not as good.

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    What kind of mentally unhinged active threat to society would even think of creating such a thing, much less use such a thing?

    edit Boy I wish I knew who the downvoters were, i bet the FBI would love to have a gander at their computers.

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    Gotta say I’m not impressed. I downloaded a picture of Sofia Vergara and it gave her really small boobs.