Discord users are cancelling their Nitro after new mobile layout update::undefined

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    2 years ago

    Personally, I think the update is a genuine improvement. Everything is more intuitive, and labels for the UI was very much needed.

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      2 years ago

      Yeah, same. I didn’t even touch the friends tab at all, so having it as DMs works better for my purposes. But Discord is trying to be the app for so many purposes I’m not surprised people are upset by a major UI change and having it be different to the desktop layout.

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        works better for my purposes

        For yours, not others. That’s kind of the crux of the issue with most UI changes nowadays. They’re made for the “average user” and the average user has the most basic needs, utilizes few advanced options, and takes advantage of the least functions. They don’t even glance at the settings menu.

        And when your primary goal developing software is to serve that audience, you will end up inevitably prioritizing aesthetic over functionality over time, until you’ve got…well, until you’ve got the reddit mobile app.

        “Look pretty, do less”

        And every time you do that, you’re pissing off your power users a little more.

        As with most issues with UI changes, they could be solved by giving the user options to customize their experience to their needs, but the idea of customizable UI is verboten nowadays for consumer apps.

    • Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I dislike a couple things – swipe to reply in general, hiding the server member list within search, and the way they laid out the new tab that combined DMs and friends list. Making the friends list horizontal profile pictures to scroll through is just annoying. Other than that it’s fine.

    • catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca
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      2 years ago

      Yes, it finally makes some goddamn sense. It’s still awful, but I find it genuinely easier to find the things I want.

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    Every time I open discord it just generates popups about features.

    Its fucking annoying.

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    2 years ago

    Odd, I was pretty happy when I got the update. I always thought it was odd that servers and PMs were mixed somewhat in the UI, and hard to distinguish between.

    People just don’t like things being different than they were ig.

    Or is there another change I didn’t notice that had people bothered?

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      I don’t dislike all the changes but the removal of the left swipe gesture to access current channel information and pinned message is a huge negative change to me.

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        Oh OK, I guess this seals it, I don’t have whatever new version people are complaining about, left swipe still works for me. I was reading through the posts trying to figured out what changed, and none of it sounded familiar. I got a discord patch yesterday, but maybe the fold phones don’t have the same version as bar phones do.

        Edit: Ah, if I close discord fully and open it on the little outside screen instead, I get the new version. That is definitely too many changes to make at once. Weird that I just have both versions.

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      Before it was better because all of the messages were in one place.

      I mostly use discord for dms and now for some reason I have to switch to a different tab to access them, it’s annoying and unnecessary.

      App is also slower now.

    • Legge@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      The two big problems for me are (1) increased slowness and lag, and (2) phantom notifications (a red 10 dot in the bottom notifications but I click in and see that it’s empty)

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      2 years ago

      Been a while since I used the new thing, immediately hated it. All on mobile.

      First of a, the bottom scroll thing on my phone to select a server or whatever it was just ain’t it. I didn’t use it much, but it seemed extremely annoying to move between dm and servers, especially if they weren’t the top ones. You can get lists and such by swiping.

      Second was that server channels turned into a huge mess. Showing the last message makes absolutely no sense on any server I use. Especially on bigger game server like destiny group finding one’s already long lists turned into miles long lists. Absolutely unusable. I need things compact and clean personally, having the channels big and wide wastes so much space, and again long lists.

      Being in a server hides any notifications and dms too.

      Everything that was close at hand before is now far away. And that sucks for me.

    • GTG3000@programming.dev
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      2 years ago

      I’m not sure anyone is complaining specifically about the DM button, that’s the one change that’s probably good? Like it doesn’t do much for me, and I wouldn’t care if they didn’t also change how the DM window works. Or how the swiping works in the server.

  • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Wait, the new UI I got yesterday? With the servers and messages finally finally separated? I like it personally. I struggle to find my DMs on the desktop app vs servers and never found the overall UI intuitive. I am usually the first to get upset over UI changes (looking at you Google Messages!), but for once I am happy.

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      2 years ago

      One problem I have with it is that it’s harder than ever to get to the members list. You have to click a thing at the top of the screen rather than just swiping from the right.

      Otherwise I’m mostly happy.

      • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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        I have no idea how we got to it before at I mostly use smaller channels and friends, but I just tapped on the # channel-banner-name at the top, without having to think about it too hard. I have never seen this screen until now, but having separate tabs for all the shared links, media, pins, and members is something I wish more apps did.

        I hope they can find a happy middle ground for users, or give users enough customization options where they can configure what works for them. I hate that only 3rd party apps for things like Reddit and Lemmy actually give you control over your interface. Is it too much to ask to have customization options like the old days? 😥

  • Vytle@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This is honestly just people hating it because its different? There is no feature removal, its just built differently. Also i find it disgusting that THIS is why people are boycotting nitro. Imagine being comfortable supporting probably the largest service hosting CSAM (and not doing much about it) but drawing the line at it taking an extra tap to view server members.

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      I mean they’ve broken the app for me. After about 15 minutes the message window won’t refresh regardless if I change channels or servers. Notifications take me nowhere so I need to go find the event myself. I’m only a light user so I’m sure there is more. It’s not just because it’s different, I actually like the new UI better.

  • the_q@lemmy.world
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    Discord offers subscriptions and micro transactions in a chat app. This is the future of everything thanks to people going “oh it’s not so bad”.

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      I like nitro for the audio and stream quality benefits. It’s not much money and makes the experience with friends better.

      Doesn’t seem much different than streaming services asking for more for 4k streaming.

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        I have shit internet so the audio and stream quality does matter to me - its the universal emojis and sound board that keeps me paying. I’m not ashamed

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          Haha the extra sound board slots are a nice perk too. Nothing as satisfying as the John Cena intro when something goes your way in a game.

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        Then they ask for a little more… Then a little more… This is why Netflix is $20/mo now because not enough people have the will to do without. These companies make you feel as if you’re missing out or that you can’t survive without their services, and when that happens they own you.

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    huh, I opted into the new layout months ago. I got use to it quickly.

    Edit: I went back to discord to find the server tray/drawer the beta had disappeared. If this is the final version, I’m surprised people are upset. The drawer was the most radical change.

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      Reading this, I just switched to see as well. That drawer was atrocious UX, and the new design without it is actually pretty good.

      I don’t find myself getting frustrated with having to tap repeatedly to do anything, and the separation of DMs and servers is cleaner and more intuitive than the old layout where they were mixed together.

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    I cancelled my nitro years ago because what exactly is the benefits that I can’t do with being a freeloader? Besides I’m sure they scrape all my data anyways

  • ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world
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    The UI changes are horrible. They make it so it takes more taps to get to places. Idk who is in charge of that but they need to reevaluate things. Also paying for discord is hilarious. But people unsubscribing is the only way they might roll back.

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      It’s always been a mess. This is imo at least a bit better. Crazy that a company of this size does UI so horribly.

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    I dont understand the outrage. It’s slightly different, oh no. Back in my day, we used a shitty bright white Windows 95 style UI voice chat program called Ventrilo, and WE LIKED IT.

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      It’s not about the DM button being moved, it’s about all the UX they broke in halves. They changed how swipe works, they changed how the DM list works, they changed how search works, none in a good way.

      For a lot of “power users”, changing how swiping acts goes in direct opposition to the muscle memory, so that’s annoying. Some functionality is just gone or is made much worse, like no longer seeing images in search and no longer having autocomplete for the filter terms there. You can no longer look at the DM list and then go back to active DM because swiping there was turned into a dumb back button replacement.

      And above all, this is just a canary in the coal mine moment - they do not care about their current app, they will do whatever they like and people are understandably uncomfortable with that.