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  • iopq@lemmy.world
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    2 年前

    What I don’t understand, as someone who doesn’t support Hamas or Netanyahu, is why you would chant that.

    Like, where would Jews go? Is that actually a real solution? Only super old people actually came to Israel from another country, most of the Israelis don’t know any other home

    • Saxoboneless@lemmy.world
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      2 年前

      Well for one, Jews and specifically Israelis don’t have to go anywhere for Palestine and Palestinians to be free?

      Like the slogan just does not at all necessarily imply what you’re imagining (or what the US congress claims) it does. That slogan’s been around longer than Hamas.

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        2 年前

        It’s not the free part I have an issue with, it’s the geography

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        2 年前

        The slogan is being used by far right israelis too. And it is implicitly genocidal for both sides. Israel is here to stay and so is Palestine. Both sides need to accept this so we can move towards the next goal, defining which lands go to which side.

        Israel needs to be charitable and give back land, remove settlers, etc. And in response Palestine needs to control its people and guarantee the safety of Israel.

        A lot of Israel’s landgrab is because of security concerns or at least thats Israel’s excuse. If Palestine can remove that excuse by providing security, things can become a lot simpler.

        The problem is that Palestine does not exist as a country with a unified government, partly because of Israel(supported hamas, etc), so Israel continues having legitimate security concerns.

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        We saw how that played out in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. After it was “freed” by Azerbaijan, 100,000 people were displaced. Sure, they didn’t have to go, but some people don’t like living under a dictatorship.

        Gaza didn’t have an election since 2006

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        Literally 75% of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza choose it as the explicit genocide option on a survey that Includes one state for two people as an option. This is a poll done by a Palestinian university in the west bank, claiming its Israeli propaganda would be pretty stupid. All the US congress did was assert to the public what the meaning is to a super majority of Palestinians in Palestine. The diaspora pushing a different narrative never speaks up when the crowds chant the Arabic version that ends in “Palestine will be Arab” (or “Palestine is Arab”).

        https://www.awrad.org/files/server/polls/polls2023/Public Opinion Poll - Gaza War 2023 - Tables of Results.pdf

    • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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      It means that Palestinians living in West Bank and Gaza should be free from Israeli oppression and Palestinians living in Israel should be free from apartheid. It doesn’t mean kicking people out.

    • SlikPikker@lemmy.ca
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      Israel can’t and shouldn’t exist in the future.

      An ethnic religious state can never be free.

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        2 年前

        But it will exists, so maybe try to work in thay framework for a solution

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      Many who chant it don’t even know what river or sea they are talking about without looking it up.

      And they don’t care what happens to the Jews. It’s a racist chant which is basically supporting genocide.

      It’s an idiotic phrase that only morons and racists would repeat. It’s unrealistic and doesn’t solve a damn thing. But of course the herd will repeat the catchy phrase because they have an excuse to be openly racist but still have a way of justifying it.

      There. I said it.

      And no, before these same idiots say otherwise: I am not happy with how Israel or the IDF is handling the current situation or the situation before October. Nor am I a supporter of hamas and their actions in early October; Israel just had their own 9/11, so of course they are going to react miltaryary, of course they fucking are, like every country on the planet would.

      This whole thing is like watching two unlikeable assholes having a boxing match. It’s basically boogie2899 Vs wingsofredemption but with a lot more death and destruction, so it’s not funny.

      • rambaroo@lemmy.world
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        2 年前

        “Of course they’re going to bomb refugee camps and schools, of fucking course they are” Jesus Christ just stfu already with the bullshit excuses

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          I’m not making excuses. Try reading my comment again and thinking for a moment.

          You can do it! I believe in you!