nuff said
Remember the 50% number is just what he was comfortable with publishing to the public
We have no reason to believe his public statistics
100% of the ads I see on Twitter today are dropshipping scams, while in the pre-musk era they were highly targeted to my job and interests to the point that if there wasn’t the “ad” tag I couldn’t distinguish that.
They can’t cost the same for the advertiser, a generic dropshipping scam that targets everyone must be cheap
Why would he tweet about his losses in the first place? I applaud his openness (/s) but I doubt any investors or advertisers will come running to a dying social networking.
If your losses are at 80% and you tell everyone they’re at 50% you can try to spin the story in your favor.
I think it’s either better than 50, or he expects it to be better shortly so when he says it’s 40, he can celebrate how good he did for the +10.
He thinks it gives him an excuse to escalate his erratic decision-making.
Indeed. Elon is a pathalogical liar.
What does he has to gain in lying anyway? It’s not like he cares about what investors think since Twitter is now a private company owned by him.
He’s a pathological liar. He doesn’t gain anything from it
You’re painting him like he’s a super villain, that’s pure hate for him. Why?
Has Elon musk done a lot recently to earn your trust and support?
Translation: “I’m terrible at business, and I’m making it everyone else’s problem”
Not losing money, just having “negative cash flow”.
I had to search the euphemism to see if I was just out of the loop on the economics terminology, and if those legit were different concepts.
On the downside, they’re not. On the upside, Musk is setting a great example for how to stop getting accused of hoarding wealth
I’m not waiting to see Twitter fail. I’m just hoping that the federated alternatives for Twitter and Reddit will get more mainstream. And I must say that I’m happy with the way things are evolving at Mastodon and Lemmy.
That’s actually a better outcome, quarantine the crazies in twitter and/or reddit while the mainstream happens in the fediverse.
The mainstream ARE the crazies now, though. The outliers, and only some of the outliers, are sensible, smart people.
That’s a sad commentary of our society as a whole. :( but still, the optimist in me wishes it were reversed.
Im pretty bummed Blue Sky chose to write their own protocol. Many of my friends who are not techie chose to go there rather than learn the fediverse.
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Elon complaining about this just reminds me that he can afford to lose ~50 billion dollars and still be one of the wealthiest people ever to have lived.
He’s below his height of wealth, but he’s still #1 and has 250 billion
- Your Google search result redirects to Twitter
- you click and open the link
- Twitter asks you to login to see the tweet.
- You close that tab and move on to next search result.
Best way to avoid traffic to your site, then complain about revenue loss from advertisements.
medium started doing the same shit, sometimes it has interesting articles I’d like to read, but then they started putting in behind registration so I just no longer open medium links.
Hell, medium should be paying me to read them
Honestly my wild guess is that he’s trying to make Twitter profitable from subscription based services and not so much from ad revenue.
Can’t really have free speech if platform depends on advertisers and investors.
He doesn’t really care about free speech. Just his opinions. (He is shadowbanning Ukrainian accounts btw)
Which accounts?
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- *changes URL to nitter.net*
Didn’t work when they blocked non-registered visitors.
It is working now though, the login restriction on the official Twitter website is still in place
Oh damn, I did realise it’s working again a few days ago, so I just assumed Twitter is open too.
Step 3: Profit!
Aww. That’s super duper sad and I am sad for him.
Anyways.
Nobody is talking about it, but does that advertising exec that Musk hired for CEO take a massive hit to her career for any of this?
It seems surreal to have a ghost CEO who isn’t responsible for anything such a large company does. But that’s exactly what’s happening here.
Lol. “Negative cash flow.”
You’re broke. You’re f*cking BROKE.
But he’s not. He’ll be fine. He’ll always be fine.
It’s hard to comprehend just how vastly, mind-bogglingly rich the ultra rich are, so consider: according to Wikipedia, Musk’s net worth in July 2023 was about $239 billion. That means that he could lose 99% of everything he owns, and then lose 99% of what was left, and be left with over $20 million, more money than most of us will see in a lifetime.
He’s not going to be applying for EBT any time soon. Hell, he’s not going to be selling off the spare Lamborghini any time soon.
Yeah he personally isn’t broke and no matter how much debt Twitter racks up, it can’t put him in the red. That’s just how corporations work.
Still, he borrowed that $44bil and will have to face the people who lent it to him. Apparent the service on that debt is already equal to Twitter’s total operating expenses. That’s real money.
WhY he’s lost by this is prestige. He lost the court case and demonstrably got taken to the cleaners. He hasn’t been able to turn the business around and in fact has made it worse. And his creditors are left holding the bag. That’s some real humiliation for someone like him.
Oh, just for contrast: imagine someone who graduates from med school, immediately gets a job as a neurosurgeon making $200,000/year — No, let’s say she really works hard, and is very good at her job, and spends wisely, and actually manages to save $200,000/year. Let’s say she manages to keep this up every year for 50 years. How much does she have when she retires? $20 million, less than if Elon Musk lost 99% of everything, and then lost 99% again.
Tesla has been breaking records on vehicle sales and the Model Y is top selling in various markets.
Tell me, how is he broke?
I mean, this is about twitter, why bring up Tesla?
Mate, you said Musk is broke.
well, wasn’t me, also you can’t tell if he said that about Musk or Twitter, since he used “you’re” which applies to both and since it’s about Twitter it makes more sense that it’s Twitter who is the “you” in the comment.
Just shut it down already.
Bye Twitter, you will not be missed.
why is this man like this
Rich people are so disconnected from reality. I mean, when I tell you disconnected people really don’t understand. The best way to put it is ths: we have a hard time intuitively understanding the vast distances in the universe. Musk is like that. He is a person with such level of disconnect. He truly lives in his own reality, most likely because a man like him does not understand the concept of poverty or struggling to make ends meet. The narcissism displayed in that interview in which he says that “if speaking his mind means losing money then so be it” should tell you how this man truly lives in an alternative reality. I am so glad most of us realized the kind of scum he is.
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but like, why did it take him tanking Twitter for many to realize that he’s just a manbaby with a diamond-encrusted platinum pacifier
like it’s really weird that it wasn’t clear when he called that one guy who saved those kids in that cave a pedophile because the guy told Musk that his invention wouldn’t be useful for the rescue effort; like people didn’t see how shitty he was after he said that
Seems like buying the media silence to keep him a “pure” image it’s a thing that he cannot contain on Twitter. But people can then correlate history. And the multiplier effect can get devastating
Remember that time he said he was going to solve the COVID ventilator crisis and sent out a bunch of obsolete overstock sleep apnea machines that nobody wanted and weren’t actually useful for the purpose? That was a good time.
Welp that happens when all your changes have been questionable at best Musk…
Luxury? What luxury, twitter is just a feed of memes, short remarks and porn What feature could they possibly have held back???
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s even worse than he’s describing, but at the same time, it’s not like we didn’t expect it. The platform has seen a colossal influx of bigots, and all kinds of completely unhinged people, because Elon has clearly shown that he’s okay with them posting what they want
TIL how loooong it takes for a largeish business to die. It’s hard to grasp scale I guess. I thought it would be over in months.
I find it hard to believe Facebook is so terribly great. Keep in mind these are not businesses like a grocery store; they’re publicly traded and the metric is growth, not profit. (Edit: Twitter is private now no idea how that change is accomplished.)
Truly, I’m hoping they all die.
and the metric is growth
No, not really. The metric is growth only for those who aren’t profitable. They use growth as a promise of future profits.
Meta/Facebook is turning in a huge profit each ear. Nobody cares about the user count that much anymore unless it sharply falls.
Twitter is different. Twitter didn’t really make a profit yet. They aren’t profitable.
Meta is pumping ungodly amounts of money into a moon shot (VR) because it is in stagnation phase and their market is saturated - so they do care about growth quite a bit.
We were talking about growing the userbase. Growth of the business is something different. Of course any company is interested in growth. However, I don’t think usercount growth is the metric Facebook is looking at currently.
Look at Amazon. The cloud division is now more profitable than the Amazon website. Facebook is looking to use those large profits to branch out in different directions. Some like the metaverse won’t work. Just like Amazon’s echo didn’t become profitable. But others eventually will.
If your business relies on the size of your userbase than those things are quite related. Again, not a coincidence that while facebook is stagnating meta is desperately trying to force vr.
It’s doing double digit billions in profit every year. Both Facebook and Meta. They’re actually doing quite all right even with the VR fiasco.
And even iftheir only possible growth vector was user count(which it isn’t), they have close to 3 billion active users monthly with over 2 billion people using Facebook daily. It is impossible to grow. There are no more people.
Musk wasted a shitload of money to make it private. Twitter is wasn’t even close to being a net neutral business, was downright a hole of money the investors kept feeding because well, it’s Twitter.
Musk bought the brand, he was well aware that this was going to happen.
Right. I wonder, now, if he had any idea what he was doing. Not to argue with you. His fuckups are just so weird here. If he wanted it “off” he could have been a lot more effective. He just looks like a fool and not one decision looks intentional. It is interesting though. A very slow motion car crash… I assume the bridge abutment or cliff is in front of him somewhere.
Musk crumpled the cashflow pretty quickly in weeks, but he also has a lot of wealth, he had to chip in billions of his own dollars to save the company from his mistakes.
