• @Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
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    16613 days ago

    So free markets are a terrible idea now and countries practicing import substitution weren’t impoverishing their people.

    US hypocrisy at it’s finest.

    • @CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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      913 days ago

      „Free market“? Speaking of hypocrisy. Chinese car brands are so heavily subsidized they probably cost the Chinese economy more than they make selling them at the moment. China is clearly trying to drown the global market with cheap cars so they can ramp up prices immensely once they have killed the competition and have become a monopoly. China hasn‘t been the extreme low income country to produce super cheaply for a long time and they couldn‘t produce cars this cheap in a free market situation.

      Many countries and the EU have measures against such practices because state run operations with the sole purpose to destroy an industry (which this is) undermine the very idea of the free market or even trade relationships.

      Alternatively we could start subsiding local car makers and play the same little game China is playing but more cars is honestly the last thing we need right now. Tariffs are a much smoother option to deal with this even when they have a bad rep.

      Ideally we use that generated money from tariffs to subsidize public transport so we don‘t get cheaper cars but cheaper alternatives but that‘s still just a dream I‘m afraid.

      Whatever the case, one should look at super cheap cars and what that means in the long run more critically.

      • @Tiger666@lemmy.ca
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        -112 days ago

        We have subsidized the big three many times, and they return nothing back. At this point, they should be nationalized.

        You have a very simple way of looking at things and are part of the problem that is going on.

        Your ignorance is showing. Tuck it in.

      • @BB84@mander.xyz
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        212 days ago

        If something is being so heavily subsidized, the correct market response is to buy as much as possible, and resell once the prices ramp up.

        Setting up tariffs and complaining about subsidies? 100% not the “free market” response. It’s cope.

        • @InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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          412 days ago

          True, even Milton Friedman (barf) said we should be thankful if someone wants to subsides our lives. Besides these market extremists say all government intervention is bound to fail, so they should have nothing to fear letting the BYDs in. The socialist subsidy of BYD will collapse and we don’t want the government distorting our market either.

          This isn’t really my personal take, but i like using their own logic to reach a conclusion they will hate.

        • @CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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          012 days ago

          Are you trying to be funny or something? Used electric cars aren‘t exactly going up in price. What a bunch of nonsense. Talking about cope.

      • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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        2913 days ago

        Pretty sure big oil and car companies have been bailed out by the US government in the past. Plus america designs most of its cities so that you need to own a car. Seems like both markets are equally “free” at the end of the day.

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      312 days ago

      Free markets were always a terrible idea, the USA economic system was basically founded on principles of regulation of goods like tea, tobacco, and alcohol.