• @DevCat@lemmy.world
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    1357 months ago

    There was a discussion a couple of years ago around gasoline taxes and how they are supposed to pay for roadway maintenance. The question came up about EVs. There were discussions about how to include EVs in the taxation system so they would pay for their fair share of the road. One of the options was to impose a tax attached to your vehicle registration based upon the weight of the vehicle. The greater the weight, the more wear and tear it produces on the road surface. This might be one solution to the barrier problem, namely moving the extra cost to the reason for the extra cost.

    • @eltrain123@lemmy.world
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      147 months ago

      Tax tire sales. Heavy cars have more expensive tire s or tires that need to be replaced more often. Scales adequately for road maintenance because heavy vehicles cause more wear on roads.

      • @CameronDev@programming.dev
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        147 months ago

        I think you make want to go the other way. Making tires more expensive wont make people choose smaller cars, they will choose worse tires. And then they will crash into you because they cant stop.

        • @RGB3x3@lemmy.world
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          97 months ago

          It’s a good rule not to make essential safety items more expensive. Because consumers in general will always choose a cheaper, less safe option.

        • @eltrain123@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          They’ll still have to replace them more often or won’t be able to drive their vehicles or pass a state inspection to get their annual registration completed unless their car is road-worthy, thus costing them more money in tickets and remedies of said ticket.

          • @CameronDev@programming.dev
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            06 months ago

            Sure, but the problem is that you dont want to make safety equipment more expensive, as it encourages cheaping out and cutting corners. People already buy cheap and nasty tires that dont grip well or stop well (but still meet roadworthiness), its best to avoid further encouraging that.

            There is no reason not to just directly tax against the weight of the car, as defined by the manufacturer. There already is a yearly rego payments, just scale that directly against weight.

            A direct tax is also clear and obvious. If someone has a large car, the rego weight tax will clearly show they are paying more. Making tires more expensive just gets rolled into the price of the tire, which are already moderately expensive, so its easier to just rationalise it and ignore it.

    • @n2burns@lemmy.ca
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      127 months ago

      There was a discussion a couple of years ago around gasoline taxes and how they are supposed to pay for roadway maintenance.

      I just want to point out, even if they’re supposed to, gas taxes do not pay for roadway maintenance, not by a long shot

    • gian
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      16 months ago

      A more logical way would be to tax a car based on how many km/miles it travels in a year, at least partially.

      I bet that my 1.5 tons car travelling 10.000 Km/year ruins the street a lot less than my neighbor’s 1 tons car that travel 30.000 Km/year

    • @blazera@lemmy.world
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      47 months ago

      ah yes, another anti-environment tax. More barriers to fossil-fuel free adoption. As you would expect, Mississippi already has this tax. Don’t be like Mississippi.

    • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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      37 months ago

      Some states do exactly that, or did back in the day. 30-years ago in Oklahoma, an old 2-ton dump truck with an antique plate was $20, a new Corvette $600. I think Texas flipped that and charged by weight vs. value.

    • BombOmOm
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      7 months ago

      Every mile an EV drives is already taxed as we already tax electricity consumption. There is no reason to add a tax for something already taxed.

      • gian
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        16 months ago

        That is true also for fossil-fuel

    • @SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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      37 months ago

      And the heavy vehicles get classified as light cargo so are largely exempt from those taxes. They’re promoting and building heavy “cargo” vehicles specifically because they get exemptions for fuel efficiency and taxes (depending on location).