So as I understand it, Google’s using it’s monopoly market position to force web “standards” unilaterally (without an independent/conglomerate web specification standards where Google is only one of many voices) that will disadvantage its competitors and force people to leave its competitors.

I’m not a lawyer, and I’m a fledgling tech guy, but this sounds like abuse of a monopoly. Google which serves 75% of the world’s ads and has 75% of the browser market share seems to want to use its market power to annihilate people’s privacy and control over their web experience.

So we can file a complaint with FTC led by Lina Khan who has been the biggest warrior against abuse by big tech in the US.

https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/report-antitrust-violation

We can also file a complaint with the DOJ:

https://www.justice.gov/atr/citizen-complaint-center

And there have to be EU, UK, Indian, Chinese, and Japanese organizations that we can file antitrust complaints to.

  • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    231 year ago

    I never left Firefox, and I will never understand, why people were so quick to adopt Chrome which was Google controlled from the start. Google was already an obvious problem at the time (2008).

    Google never had an interest in building the best browser for users. They are not a browser company, they are an advertiser. What they wanted is the best browser for Google, meaning the best browser for delivering advertising. That is becoming more and more obvious. Google has been trying to kill Firefox for a while, by making parts of their services not work quite as intended. While if you changed your user agent, it would work fine!

    Another place here today, we can read how Google is trying to kill Jpeg XL or JXL, which is a superior graphics format to JPG PNG and GIF wrapped into 1. https://lemmy.world/post/2059816

    Firefox really helped protect the Internet and Internet users from the shenanigans of Microsoft. It should come as no surprise, that Google wants to control the Internet, just as much as Microsoft did, from a pure business perspective, that’s an obvious move, and our best defense is still Mozilla and Firefox and lawmakers that aren’t corrupt. So don’t elect trump to get another Ajit Pai who has no bigger wish than to kill net neutrality.

    • @DrGunjah@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      I was a Firefox user until they started releasing major versions every few days which broke addons. Not sure how it is today but it was a hassle for a few weeks at least. I switched to chrome because it was the next best option back then.

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        Yes that was stupid, I don’t deny Chrome could easily be seen as the better browser in some respects.

        But it was still pretty obvious that we were on our way to the exact same problems we had with Internet Explorer, and Microsofts attempt to control the Internet, through extensions only available on IE, that were necessary to use several Microsoft technologies, when Microsoft had a monopoly.

        • @DrGunjah@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          So would you say Firefox has settled down in the last years? I don’t like where chrome is going (not only privacy, the “dumbing down” sucks too) and tempted to switch back again. But it requires a bit of work

          • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            I’d say yes, there are still frequent upgrades, but IMO add-on breakage is not common anymore in my experience.

            I have to admit though, that I’m not using nearly as many add-ons as I used to. uBlock Origin is my most important add-on, and Dark reader, and bypass paywall are also always on add-ons, and they have all worked flawlessly for years.

            I’m on Manjaro Linux, so I get updates very frequently and early, although most are probably security updates. So I’m probably near max exposed to breakage, and haven’t had problems with it since years ago, when an add-on for splitting windows into panels broke after being unmaintained for quite a while.

            Alternatively, you might want to try Chromium, which allegedly should be like Chrome but without the Google shenanigans.

            Personally I prefer to not use that either, because it’s still heavily influenced by the development of Chrome, but I guess it’s better than Chrome from a freedom perspective.

    • @Molecular0079@lemmy.world
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      41 year ago

      why people were so quick to adopt Chrome which was Google controlled from the start.

      Because for a long time Chrome was just much faster. It wasn’t until a couple of months ago that Firefox started becoming performant enough for me to use as a daily driver. Even then, there’s still issues with how slow it takes Mozilla to implement new web technologies like WebGPU, etc.

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        -31 year ago

        Yes because a bit faster short term, is worth sacrificing you freedom long term?

        I will never get people like you.

        • @shotgun_crab@lemmy.world
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          31 year ago

          Most people have no idea or don’t care at all about privacy on the internet. Google has a solid set of “free” services that work well and a good enough reputation to convince them.

          • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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            11 year ago

            Wow you got 2 downvotes for stating an absolutely true statement, that describes a HUGE problem.

            For us to lose all our rights and freedoms, it only takes enough people not to care. And that’s the problem.

            Google apps are a huge surveillance machine that absolutely threaten our freedom. Most people just don’t give a shit, because it’s convenient.

    • Matt
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      71 year ago

      You have to realise that to most people, Google is not seen as a bad company - quite the opposite in fact. They have all these “free” products that do everything you need them to, so they’ve built-up a huge amount of trust with the general population.

      Google is obviously trying to take over the web, but the regular person doesn’t see this as they don’t follow any of this news, nor do they actually care. Google has good, fast, free products, that’s all people care about.

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        You have to realise that to most people, Google is not seen as a bad company - quite the opposite in fact.

        You are right, maybe I tend to forget that is not obvious to everybody. But it’s not like I believe Google is inherently bad or evil, they just have an enormous amount of power that I think very few people realize. Google search alone or YouTube alone can make or break companies, can shift elections, can shift popular opinion in general. That’s to much power IMO.

        Power corrupts as we know, and although Google is not worse than most, they aren’t better either, and they are using their power in subtle ways, to promote their own interests.

    • @Archer@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      It’s easy to forget now, but IE was such absolute dogshit for years that literally anything else was better

      • @Sanctus@lemmy.world
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        01 year ago

        Back in the day Firefox delivered the same look and feel with a better experience than IE did.

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        -21 year ago

        So a bit of speed short term, is enough to sacrifice your freedom long term?

        Obviously I know it was faster, what I don’t get is that people had no principles, and was ready to give everything up to a company clearly trying to control the Internet.

        And that was even so shortly after we had similar problems with Microsoft, that we have now with Google.