First RCS now this, today has been wild
Didn’t we do this already back in the 90s with IE bundling??
ABOUT FUCKING TIME. Take edge and shove it so far up your data tracking sphincter of a face hole.
Can we please get these laws on a global level.
If I have to keep a chromium browser around, in addition to Firefox, I’d rather edge than mainline Chrome.
I’m not sure I would. Edge is trash, it keeps shoving the AI bullshit, all the MSN news stuff, ads for cheaper shopping, all in your face when you first start up. While you can turn it off, it gets annoying doing that every time you reinstall or spin up a new VM. Chrome, for all its faults, is a lot less annoying freshly installed.
Nope. But hey look, the Democrats are coming to take your guns!
Based EU.
I will do whatever it takes for my non-European windows install to behave like a European windows install.
If I got rid of ads on windows if be much happier with the OS and would not have such a grudge against using it.
I can’t wait until benchmarks are run on the two versions side by side to see if it impacts battery life and or performance.
If you used Linux your OS wouldn’t be trying to subvert your well being by casually manipulating you while you are just trying to get shit done.
Please don’t force Linux as a religious zealot forces their way on other people. Some like it, some are in the fence and some will never use it for wherever personal reason.
Proud mint user here, don’t get me wrong
If they are specifically dissatisfied with the way Windows is working and will always work and feel up to try to modify it to work less shitty they are probably exactly the group that should switch to Linux or pony up the money for a Mac.
I totally get that people are tired of seeing Linux recommendations but…
Pointing out that there is an alternative without the same issues is hardly “forcing Linux as a religious zealot forces their way on other people”
That’s a bit hyperbolic imo
Until you can’t game at 4k, 120hz, with an HDR high resolution display.
But, from the most recent time I tried it: Display scaling doesn’t always work (150% UI). 2x worked fine, it is supposed to work fine with wayland, but wayland didn’t seem to like nvidia drivers. Many anti cheats don’t work. WoW didn’t work (though it should based off the wine compatibility reviews). Bluetooth had issues (didn’t reconnect on startup I think).
While I’d love to change to linux, every time it’s always been inferior for my personal use cases. As windows gets worse, and linux gets better, eventually the time will come when I switch. But for a great many people, the support simply isn’t there yet.
I don’t get why Linux users don’t understand that they are part of like a 1% bubble. 99% of people would not enjoy Linux. I’m a Pop Os user myself and seeing what I have to do sometimes to get simple everday things to work that work right out of the box in Windows and MacOs is rediculus. No normie would ever figure out what to do even when googling. Linux is an exclusive Pc enthusiast operating system. Even the beginner friendly distros are not “dump proof” enough for the regular person. There is no use in advocating it on every problem post from Windows or MacOs. You’re doing no one a favor with it.
Its actually more like 2.x% and its a lot higher in some segments like developer. The fact that the most popular phone OS on the planet is based on Linux is trivial proof that you can make an experience that is desirable and usable by the majority of people based on the same technology.
That said android isn’t really that simple if you come to it there is actually plenty of complexity both in terms of interfaces that vary between manufacturer and features. If we were to consider for instance Linux Mint running cinnamon I wouldn’t say the complexity of Mint/Cinnamon is higher than android.
I actually use Linux on everything other than my work computer due to needing a few programs that absolutely will not work on Linux and do not have Linux alternatives.
At last. This is actually good news for Windows itself because people will be more inclined to use it again if they don’t see ads, aren’t tracked, can set any default browser etc.
So it’s good for both users and Microsoft.
Sometimes these corporations just can’t help themselves by adding trash and they need a mommy figure to force them to stop doing that which ultimately benefits themselves.
Thing is for me windows opened a pandora’s box that goes further than just ad-free, once I started getting into open software thanks to switching to linux, I realized it’s not just the them saying there’s no tracking, it’s the being able to see it for yourself, it’s the there being a 1000 eyes on a project that don’t have a motivation to lie to you, checking making sure that there are no trackers.
It’s no longer just sbout them saying “it’s all good we ain’t spying” it’s about a project with a thousand eyes on them making sure this is actually the case, plus the nature of most open licenses where every fork also needs to follow such license.
It’s starting to become a sort of change in how I see society working with each other and I whish there were other aspects of life where such a philosophy vould be applied.
Agree 100%. Free Software user here. Linux Mint Debian Edition is what I’m running.
I wish all software and hardware abided by the FOSS principles
Now there will be two versions of Windows. One that adheres to EU regulation, and another that’s filled with ads for everyone else.
Windows 12 Euro Trash Edition and Windows 12 Red Blooded God Anointed American Edition. If either crosses the EU boarder the computer will explode killing everyone in a 10 meter radius.
I feel like that might also violate some regulations
Yes, American munitions export controls
regulations that stifle innovation baby 😎
There sort of already is https://www.howtogeek.com/322112/what-is-an-n-or-kn-edition-of-windows/
It’ll be one version, they’ll just force certain “features” on you based on the region you’re in as determined by your system time, GPS location, or IP address
system time, GPS location, or IP address
They can all easily be spoofed or changed.
The sad thing is that this happens because someone forces them to comply and not out of principle.
I live in the UK, and because of Brexit we won’t get this. Thanks Nigel Farage.
I expect that it’s because we’re not in the EU that measures like this can be passed there. Maybe in 10-20 years time we can rejoin an EU massively improved by our absence.
Only in EU/EEA countries. So us here in
GileadAmerica are SOL at the momentDoes Linux let you disable its system-embedded advertisements? Didn’t think so!
It does.
sudo pro config set apt_news=falseandsudo truncate -s0 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-esm-hook.confBut I feel sorry for you if you are still using Ubuntu at this point.
I just wish it would stop showing me ads for Linus’ Only Fans. Like, I already subbed, please go away.
Which flavor?
Does this also mean Google will let me uninstall Chrome from my Android device? Or is this only about PC’s?
I hope we will get there too. Be able to fully install and uninstall Google services.
You can already do that if you buy a phone that is compatible with LineageOS or other open source ROMs.
That’s already possible either by using a custom ROM or by connecting to a PC and using adb.
We shouldn’t have to rely on 3rd parties for that.
ADB is very much 1st party.
is EU based or something
Uh… Yes. Yes we are.
Why yes Microsoft, I am totally a European in Europe right now…
VPN to Sweden, update Windows to the EEA version, profit?
I’m not holding my breath, but we can hope.
But will they let you disable tracking and telemetry?
I just switched to Linux. Get fucked!
and that’s the only long-term winning move, because MS shenanigans will never end
I may have lost my sound card drivers, but at least I’ve not got to put up with windows (don’t worry I’ve got an external soundcard)!
I’m team Linux as well
I, really really want to switch to Linux. I duel boot and use Linux for study. but there are some apps I just can’t get around, and have to switch back to Windows for. I ran some cool scripts that stripped Windows of bloat and uninstalled edge and ads, and I have to say. it’s almost as nice as Linux now. runs faster too.
Honestly what finally pushed me was when windows suddenly decided that going to sleep and keeping on sleeping was too much to ask for. Haven’t found anything that doesn’t work on Linux yet, but I mostly play games.
Its a bit of drama but if you have a look at setting up qemu with virtual machine manager its worthwhile.
It makes virtual machines that directly utilize the hardware, meaning you can run your stripped out windows inside a window on your Linux desktop.
Its pretty hard to get your GPU to pass through but if its non-gpu oriented apps you need its perfect. My fixed windows VM boots in about 10 seconds, has next to zero network usage, uses 2 cpus and 4gb of ram, and just runs its couple of little apps no trouble every day
You need 2 GPUs (essentially) for GPU passthrough to work correctly. I gave it a go once and it never worked correctly. Absolutely right for non GPU apps though, or with some VM’s, older games.
I’ll check this out ty
